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    exoteric
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    PerfectPhase

    How can you ask us to choose?  There are so many.  On top of that list, VS documentary and the History of MS are well worth a mention.

     

    Seems like Channel9 has really been on fire lately with the videos.  The C9 Live stuff, E2E, the lecture series, all great stuff.

     

     It's a real shame you can't sort the video list by rating, it would be inreasting to see the ones the members rate the highest. (OData feed on the videos please so we could do this ourselves?)

     

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    Charles

    PerfectPhase said:

    How can you ask us to choose?  There are so many.  On top of that list, VS documentary and the History of MS are well worth a mention.

     

    Seems like Channel9 has really been on fire lately with the videos.  The C9 Live stuff, E2E, the lecture series, all great stuff.

     

     It's a real shame you can't sort the video list by rating, it would be inreasting to see the ones the members rate the highest. (OData feed on the videos please so we could do this ourselves?)

     

    Stay tuned for sorting features... Smiley
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    PS: I loved the VS documentary. Hoping Tina will do one on Windows, too. History of Microsoft was great. Channel 9 Live is fantastic and brings Niners into the conversation in real time - something we've wanted to do for several years. Kudos to Nic et al for pulling it off so well. Great to ask your questions live!!

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    exoteric

    PerfectPhase said:

    How can you ask us to choose?  There are so many.  On top of that list, VS documentary and the History of MS are well worth a mention.

     

    Seems like Channel9 has really been on fire lately with the videos.  The C9 Live stuff, E2E, the lecture series, all great stuff.

     

     It's a real shame you can't sort the video list by rating, it would be inreasting to see the ones the members rate the highest. (OData feed on the videos please so we could do this ourselves?)

     

    Too few people bother to give a thumbs up, unfortunately. The view count is probably a better measure.

     

    And of course the Functional Programming Lecture Series must not be forgotten!

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    Charles

    exoteric said:
    PerfectPhase said:
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    Too few people bother to give a thumbs up, unfortunately. The view count is probably a better measure.

     

    And of course the Functional Programming Lecture Series must not be forgotten!

    Agreed. We are working on making it more obvious...
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    PS: Two new Lectures series in the works: STL (for the C++ devs out there) and a special series on type systems with a special (secret) guest lecturer..

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    PerfectPhase

    Charles said:
    exoteric said:
    *snip*

    Agreed. We are working on making it more obvious...
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    PS: Two new Lectures series in the works: STL (for the C++ devs out there) and a special series on type systems with a special (secret) guest lecturer..

    Just one other things...  I went looking for the Corrinne Yu - Part 2 video on http://channel9.msdn.com/Media/ It was posted on 19th of May but does not show in the list?  You can find it via the tag cloud and the front page.  Just wondering now how many other videos just vanish into the mists of time?

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    rhm

    Charles said:
    exoteric said:
    *snip*

    Agreed. We are working on making it more obvious...
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    PS: Two new Lectures series in the works: STL (for the C++ devs out there) and a special series on type systems with a special (secret) guest lecturer..

    Channel 9 University! Where do I pick up my diploma?

     

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    Charles

    PerfectPhase said:
    Charles said:
    *snip*

    Just one other things...  I went looking for the Corrinne Yu - Part 2 video on http://channel9.msdn.com/Media/ It was posted on 19th of May but does not show in the list?  You can find it via the tag cloud and the front page.  Just wondering now how many other videos just vanish into the mists of time?

    Fixed Smiley

     

    This happens because we sometimes forget to set the media type on our posts (it defaults to No media, which means it won't show up in the /media/ feed...).

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    Charles

    rhm said:
    Charles said:
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    Channel 9 University! Where do I pick up my diploma?

     

    I like the sound of that: Channel 9 University. Smiley

     

    We'd have to provide tests for you to pass in order to get your C9 Degree... Hmm.

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    davewill

    Charles said:
    rhm said:
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    I like the sound of that: Channel 9 University. Smiley

     

    We'd have to provide tests for you to pass in order to get your C9 Degree... Hmm.

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    Please don't let Erik come up with the test.  Smiley

     

    OR actually let Erik come up with the test based on previous C9 content.

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    vesuvius

    Gotta say I like the Bertrand one  - a lot - with the sleeping barbers, I also enjoy the expert to expert ones a lot, and any with the Technical fellows (been a bit thin lately - the Butler Lampson one was great), but Daniel Moth, Beth Massi, Ron Jacobs even the 5 minute vid on creating a network diagram with Visio has got me out of a fix, contributing to the epic success of whatever I was working on at the time.

     

     

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    Royal​Schrubber

    Definitely Singularity videos. They were like methadone version of Longhorn videos. I still haven't forgiven Microsoft for Longhorn.. I remember when it was just after XP got released and those videos started to come out. They made it look like second coming of Jesus.. Singularity videos were kinda like that. Charles, we want more of our favorite binary drug..  Smiley

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    exoteric

    RoyalSchrubber said:

    Definitely Singularity videos. They were like methadone version of Longhorn videos. I still haven't forgiven Microsoft for Longhorn.. I remember when it was just after XP got released and those videos started to come out. They made it look like second coming of Jesus.. Singularity videos were kinda like that. Charles, we want more of our favorite binary drug..  Smiley

    I think the current approach is for projects on the scale of Longhorn to be in private incubation, precisely because Microsoft doesn't want the public to expect whatever new research or incubation they lanch will turn into the next version of Product X when they are themselves not sure when or if these projects will turn into products. That said, one could argue that the main problem with Longhorn is that it was not an incubation project but rather in line to replace Windows with an unrealistic time schedule and unproven technologies.

     

    I surely hope the dream of a managed code operating system is not dead within Microsoft but rather that the fundamentals needed to make it work will be tried and tested so that the next bet will be a sure one. One lesson is that's it's extremely important to manage expectations and to label projects correctly, be it Internet Explorer (Platform Preview; "where is my address bar") or Windows + 1. It's clear that Windows 7 is a very lean and cool but still incremental Windows. Maybe Windows 8 will be too. There is an interview with a member of the Windows core architechture team performed by Robert Hess (behind the code) where the architect, Richard Ward, says that he's working two versions ahead of the current version of Windows. Pretty cool.

     

    The Singularity videos rock. No doubt about it.

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    Charles

    exoteric said:
    RoyalSchrubber said:
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    I think the current approach is for projects on the scale of Longhorn to be in private incubation, precisely because Microsoft doesn't want the public to expect whatever new research or incubation they lanch will turn into the next version of Product X when they are themselves not sure when or if these projects will turn into products. That said, one could argue that the main problem with Longhorn is that it was not an incubation project but rather in line to replace Windows with an unrealistic time schedule and unproven technologies.

     

    I surely hope the dream of a managed code operating system is not dead within Microsoft but rather that the fundamentals needed to make it work will be tried and tested so that the next bet will be a sure one. One lesson is that's it's extremely important to manage expectations and to label projects correctly, be it Internet Explorer (Platform Preview; "where is my address bar") or Windows + 1. It's clear that Windows 7 is a very lean and cool but still incremental Windows. Maybe Windows 8 will be too. There is an interview with a member of the Windows core architechture team performed by Robert Hess (behind the code) where the architect, Richard Ward, says that he's working two versions ahead of the current version of Windows. Pretty cool.

     

    The Singularity videos rock. No doubt about it.

    You've been paying attention, exoteric. Excellent.

     

    Richard Ward is great. I love the Behind the Code series and I occasionally pressure Hess to do more interviews (he's a master at it) for 9.

     

    Here's another piece, though old (I had no gray hair....) where Windows architects discuss the thinking behind Windows evolution. One of my favorites. All that they said is still as true now as it was then (and before then). Interesting to note the dependencies among modules that comprise Windows are much better understood today than when this conversation took place. Windows has become more composable. There is still a great deal of work to do in order to achieve the vision.

     

    http://channel9.msdn.com/shows/Going+Deep/Rob-Short-and-kernel-team-Going-deep-inside-Windows-Vistas-kernel-architecture/


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    Bass

    I really enjoy the E2E series, as well as the lectures. There was one with a technical fellow (I don't recall his name) which I thought was excellent. You are definately doing some great work Charles.

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    tfraser

    The ones with Brian Beckman on the history of old computers (with the Curta, I think) and the physics simulation in Forza were great.

     

    Edit: Links ...

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    soum

    Can't believe I missed the 2nd Singularity video (Singularity Revisited). But its missing the media downloads. Charles, can you take care of the missing download link?

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    JoshRoss

    davewill said:
    Charles said:
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    Please don't let Erik come up with the test.  Smiley

     

    OR actually let Erik come up with the test based on previous C9 content.

    Or Brian for that matter!

     

    3 + (product ((1 + 1/k)^3)/(1 + 3/k) k=1 to infinity)

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