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Why isn't .NET 4 in Windows Update?

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    turrican

    Hm, why isn't .NET 4 in Windows Update? I have to download it manually, wtf?

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    spivonious

    Because .NET 4 isn't required for Windows to run.

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    turrican

    spivonious said:

    Because .NET 4 isn't required for Windows to run.

    um, what? Smiley

     

    I have enabled "Microsoft Update" and I remember other versions of .NET was there, no? I never installed v 3.x for example.

     

    Weird.

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    Dexter

    turrican said:
    spivonious said:
    *snip*

    um, what? Smiley

     

    I have enabled "Microsoft Update" and I remember other versions of .NET was there, no? I never installed v 3.x for example.

     

    Weird.

    I could be wrong but it takes a while before a new piece of software is pushed to Windows Update. You really don't want millions to install it and then discover it has some nasty bugs.

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    intelman

    Dexter said:
    turrican said:
    *snip*

    I could be wrong but it takes a while before a new piece of software is pushed to Windows Update. You really don't want millions to install it and then discover it has some nasty bugs.

    You dont want to release a build of a product without discovering a nasty bug. The fact that it is released should bring some confidence.

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    figuerres

    turrican said:
    spivonious said:
    *snip*

    um, what? Smiley

     

    I have enabled "Microsoft Update" and I remember other versions of .NET was there, no? I never installed v 3.x for example.

     

    Weird.

    it will show up as a "not required but there if you want it" probably in the next month.

    if you have it installed then any updates to the base install will also be shown.

     

    SIlverlight V4 only just started to update last week.

    if you look at www.riastats.com

    go to the major versions line chart and look at the V3 and V4 lines for the last week  V4 is almost up where V3 was.

     

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    turrican

    figuerres said:
    turrican said:
    *snip*

    it will show up as a "not required but there if you want it" probably in the next month.

    if you have it installed then any updates to the base install will also be shown.

     

    SIlverlight V4 only just started to update last week.

    if you look at www.riastats.com

    go to the major versions line chart and look at the V3 and V4 lines for the last week  V4 is almost up where V3 was.

     

    aah OK, Thank you.

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    magicalclick

    turrican said:
    figuerres said:
    *snip*

    aah OK, Thank you.

    .Net is always OPTIONAL in the windows update. You have to always manually do it. Vista and Win7 have .Net3.0 pre-installed.

     

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    mstefan

    magicalclick said:
    turrican said:
    *snip*

    .Net is always OPTIONAL in the windows update. You have to always manually do it. Vista and Win7 have .Net3.0 pre-installed.

     

    At this point, I don't know why they don't declare the .NET runtimes to be core system components and require them to be installed and updated. Keeping them optional seems very 2002-ish.

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    magicalclick

    mstefan said:
    magicalclick said:
    *snip*

    At this point, I don't know why they don't declare the .NET runtimes to be core system components and require them to be installed and updated. Keeping them optional seems very 2002-ish.

    because it takes time to download and people are having 56K internet with 20GB of HDD. Tongue Out

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    Bass

    mstefan said:
    magicalclick said:
    *snip*

    At this point, I don't know why they don't declare the .NET runtimes to be core system components and require them to be installed and updated. Keeping them optional seems very 2002-ish.

    Perhaps it is not worth the trouble? If you think this is ancient history, the DoJ recently investigated Windows 7 for possible anti-trust violations. The government is watching the company very carefully in the hopes that they can sue them again for anti-trust. I don't think Microsoft wants to help with that.

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    turrican

    magicalclick said:
    turrican said:
    *snip*

    .Net is always OPTIONAL in the windows update. You have to always manually do it. Vista and Win7 have .Net3.0 pre-installed.

     

    Yes, I meant that I can not find it as optional download. Sorry for not being clear... but I guess it'll show up soon.

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    turrican

    Bass said:
    mstefan said:
    *snip*

    Perhaps it is not worth the trouble? If you think this is ancient history, the DoJ recently investigated Windows 7 for possible anti-trust violations. The government is watching the company very carefully in the hopes that they can sue them again for anti-trust. I don't think Microsoft wants to help with that.

    Them b******* want to milk money, that's all. They could care less about the consumers.

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    vesuvius

    Bass said:
    mstefan said:
    *snip*

    Perhaps it is not worth the trouble? If you think this is ancient history, the DoJ recently investigated Windows 7 for possible anti-trust violations. The government is watching the company very carefully in the hopes that they can sue them again for anti-trust. I don't think Microsoft wants to help with that.

    Well no actually!. Since .NET 4.0 came out Visual Studio 2010 now defaults to the client profile that is >40MB so developers can now target this framework version, so in the future a typical .NET client application won't need the full .NET at all.

     

    If you are downloading it manually, you probably are needing server libraries hence 'developing' so you should have .NET installed anyway as you are using C# Express/Visual Studio.

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    turrican

    vesuvius said:
    Bass said:
    *snip*

    Well no actually!. Since .NET 4.0 came out Visual Studio 2010 now defaults to the client profile that is >40MB so developers can now target this framework version, so in the future a typical .NET client application won't need the full .NET at all.

     

    If you are downloading it manually, you probably are needing server libraries hence 'developing' so you should have .NET installed anyway as you are using C# Express/Visual Studio.

    I have a feeling .NET will be part of Windows someday... maybe Windows 9.

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    felix9

    I think at this moment most of the localized versions of .NET 4 Framework are not released to the public yet.

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