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    at my college, mis/cis (ie... school of business) students were automatically enrolled in msdnaa in the intro programming classes. the required courses include, c# and ms-sql exposure all using ms tools had through msdnaa.


    computer science (ie... school of engineering) students have access to msdnaa but are not automatically enrolled. they have to seek it through the university student liason if they want access to ms tools (most do it just to get the os and other niceties).  computer science students intro classes were taught with python, then different track options for java and c++, depending on the student's choice. of course nothing stops a cs/engineering student from taking an mis/cis course, but since it wasn't a requirement of the degree, it rarely happened and vice/versa (mis/cis students rarely took cs classes).