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Whats up with MSDN Search????

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    Knute

    I did a search for "data grid" on MSDN and this is what I got:

    http://www.hestness.com/nettest/dg.jpg

    What is up with that? I find the quickest way to search MSDN is to go to google and put in my query and it will search MSDN, the MSDN search tool is pathetic.

    ~ Knute

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    jamie

    not to want to keep rubbing it in.. but i concur completely.

    I use this..
    http://www.winnews.com/msn.htm

    and i got the results
    http://search.msn.com/results.asp?RS=CHECKED&FORM=MSNH&v=1&q=data+grid

    for datagrid

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    jamie

    Actually - heres something i tried quick..

    just an experiment..doesnt work

    http://www.gnuarts.com/search.htm

    obviously the alphabet looks a little busy - but the "Alphabet Bar" could be handy..

    Search: Web/ Movies
    get all movies
    select a letter - just get those movies

    search: 411 / jamie grant  -  alphabet bar shows phone numbers / address book / appointments + web

    Search: Dictionary  : type a word - go through other words in order like a book

    - View across screen or split
    - big next and back markers
    -search blogs rss only






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    LazyCoder

    This has been covered before, like every other topic under the sun.Smiley

    They, the MSDN search team, seem to be aware of the problem and are working on the problem. Much like they, anonymous Microsoft employee responsible for technology X is working on the problem with technology X.

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    SKG

    Knute,
    You can contact me or my manger regarding internal problems with our intranet site.

    I am working on Search for MSDN externally, and would love to hear any other feedback that people have...

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    jamie

    I realise that, just tossing out ideas..

    more from above post re:
    http://www.gnuarts.com/search.htm

    i realize for regular blogs and search its next to impossible - except to grab like the first letter of what ever comes in and alphabetize that..

    really - it would need good databases - to make sure common things like all albums books words etc would work with it.

    In a perfect world - you'd have a Search alphabet component - and get partners on board that had big databases in specialized categories.

    so it might be words like:  word(s) - powered by meriam webster, movie(s) - powered by blockbuster, music - powered by cdnow .. etc.

    the core idea is trying to put a new yet natural spin on search,, to me - i went.. i want this all in order, and i dont want irelivant listings for the most important one word categories - ie; moviews - i want every movie released - not bobs star trek fan site.

    the other part is that you could theoretically have NO ads.. as the partners are ads ( sort of) and you make them pay you and make them provide results in very very simple googlesque form - ya grab a percent of any clicks as well - or sales or what have you
    - but there isnt a side bar of paid links..

    i guess the hard part would be communicating to users what happens when you type:

    words
    movies
    books
    software
    events
    baseball
    etc..

    basically alphabet bar would need to be designed to work on any one word input - so how do you communicate to use what words have been done..

    * dont forget - you could search regular like now as well

    just ideas

    *ps - googles ad sence relies on an outdated view of ads

    all ads in the future will BE the content
    just move on that front and you will win

    (as usual) Wink

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