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    val3

    Hi,

    what is true about the rumour that MS actually uses Linux servers? It is true/partly true/was true/will true Wink?

    oh, and my other favorite: "The MS established a team with top experts to find security holes in Linux, and they are failed!" what about this?

    I'm very curious! Smiley

    B.

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    PaoloM

    val3 wrote:
    Hi,

    what is true about the rumour that MS actually uses Linux servers? It is true/partly true/was true/will true Wink?

    In production? No. Although I'm pretty sure there are Linux machines around for competitive testing.
    val3 wrote:
    oh, and my other favorite: "The MS established a team with top experts to find security holes in Linux, and they are failed!" what about this?

    No, even Microsoft employees are not THAT incompetent not to find a fairly rich slew of bugs in Linux Smiley

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    Jeremy W

    val3 wrote:
    Hi,

    what is true about the rumour that MS actually uses Linux servers? It is true/partly true/was true/will true Wink?

    oh, and my other favorite: "The MS established a team with top experts to find security holes in Linux, and they are failed!" what about this?


    I've never heard the second quote before. I also don't see any reason MS wouldn't have Linux boxes around. I wouldn't say it's all about competition, though I really can't see any critical apps on it. At worst I'd be surprised if people weren't playing around both with the desktop environments as well as with the new Mono beta.

    MS is a company of complete tech addicts (not everyone, but a lot). Big announcements are (like most of us) followed by lots of playing. I'm sure that sometimes that playing happens with Linux.

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    sbc

    I'm sure they even have some Macs as well. Maybe even use them for work (graphics design).

    Perhaps Windows should be a UNIX like system - which is generally more secure by default (but also less usable).

    I think the run as feature on Windows should work on the control panel as well as exe files - so you can install/set up hardware while not logged on with admin rights.

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    val3

    Jeremy W. wrote:


    I've never heard the second quote before. I also don't see any reason MS wouldn't have Linux boxes around. I wouldn't say it's all about competition, though I really can't see any critical apps on it. ...


    possible reason: "The windows servers cannot handle the heavy traffic..." (This type of romours was very popular about two years ago with hotmail, and now have their renascence with windows update).

    Neither I beleive in this stories, I hoped that in this informal forum I may be able to receive relevant answers from relevant people, not just guesses (although thanks for your replies).

    Other aspect of the topic: Are these stories popular in your communities (wherever you live) or this is just an other 'Hungaricum'?

    B.

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    lars

    I'm quite sure they've got Linux machines. And Macs. And BSDs. And Solaris. And so on. It just makes sense looking at what other people do.

    /Lars.

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    Cider

    Microsoft did switch their front line servers for Windows Update across to Akamai's web caching service during MSBlaster and that web service is run on Linux boxes.

    It was nothing big or important, because this service Akamai do is a very specialised service, and Microsoft had literally hours to find a way of deflecting a DDoS from the Windows Update site.

    Of course, the dreadful fools who populate Slashdot immediately turned this into "Microsoft is using Linux because its better" and the incident has disappeared into common tech folklore.

    Interestingly, during that period, had you done a lookup on Windows Update's site, you'd have got a rather unique response that it was running IIS on Linux...

    Mark

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    Jaz

    well let's see.  MS develop Mac products, so yes they will have Macs.  They develop Windows Services for unix so yes they have unix and *nix computers.  They also probably check to make sure there is at least some form of connection between windows and *nix boxes so yes they will have that.  This would be the same for Novell and solaris too.

    WU was never moved to linux boxes, however the caching was, so the windows boxes were hidden behind linux.  hotmail still has the odd linux box i'm sure.  but that's all changing.

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    brantonb

    sbc wrote:

    I think the run as feature on Windows should work on the control panel as well as exe files - so you can install/set up hardware while not logged on with admin rights.


    You can actually do this. Go to the Control Panel and make sure you've switched to "Classic View". Now if you hold shift and right click on any of the icons, you'll get a "Run As..." option.

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    sbc

    Never tried that before. Works on 2k as well as XP.
    Doesn't work on network connections though - so if you have to change an IP address for instance, you have to log in as admin.
    You also can't do it for Users and Passwords

    Can you somehow do it files on remotely mapped drives - when I try it it doesn't work (if you use the local admininstrator account), due to the adminstrator not having the drives mapped.

    The only way seems to be to copy the files to your hard drive, then do it.

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