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Avalon and indigo Beta1 RC released?

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    PerfectPhase

    http://tinyurl.com/9eblh (Runtime only, no sdk)

    Downloading now...   Looks like that's the weekend plans out the window Wink

    Stephen

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    Tom Servo

    W-hat?

    Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us

    Smiley

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    figuerres

    tom did you do that or where did the link come from?

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    figuerres

    PerfectPhase wrote:
    http://tinyurl.com/9eblh (Runtime only, no sdk)

    Downloading now...   Looks like that's the weekend plans out the window Wink

    Stephen


    where is this from?

    show us the real url?

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    Stitch 2.0

    figuerres wrote:
    PerfectPhase wrote:http://tinyurl.com/9eblh (Runtime only, no sdk)

    Downloading now...   Looks like that's the weekend plans out the window Wink

    Stephen


    where is this from?

    show us the real url?


    I clicked it (*cough*) and luckily it redirected to microsoft.com so, it seems quite ok.

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    figuerres

    Stitch 2.0 wrote:
    figuerres wrote:
    PerfectPhase wrote: http://tinyurl.com/9eblh (Runtime only, no sdk)

    Downloading now...   Looks like that's the weekend plans out the window Wink

    Stephen


    where is this from?

    show us the real url?


    I clicked it (*cough*) and luckily it redirected to microsoft.com so, it seems quite ok.


    I have some problems with that:

    1) it's a re-dir thru some site
    2) I can't see a MSFT web page to see what it says
    3) nothing new is on MSDN subscriber files -- should be ther first.
    4) a "runtime" w/o any SDK? why would MSFT do that?

    I'd like to see the full URL .... ok so it may be long and have a GUID but.... this is how you get hacked by thinking it's legit and running a setup that can do god knows what.

    call me paranoid but.... a 2 meg d/l no sdk no other news ... ???

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    figuerres

    time to use a VPC session and see what is in this file.
    looks like it's signed, looks like it's an express download installer.


    now see what happens in vpc.

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    Stitch 2.0

    figuerres wrote:

    show us the real url?


    btw, sometime ago somebody requested others not to post long urls no more.... Instead to use tinyurl to shorten them. You guys are not easy to please Tongue Out

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    irascian

    figuerres wrote:
     
    I have some problems with that:

    3) nothing new is on MSDN subscriber files -- should


    Actually I got MSDN notification via their RSS feed before this link was posted.

    But the RSS notification link just takes you to a "Download not found" page - this seems to happen a lot. It happened with Beta 2 and Win 2003 SP1. It seems the RSS feed gets updated before the files are available on MSDN downloads.

    But I'm not chasing any tinyURL that takes me to an unknown executable.

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    Sven Groot

    Stitch 2.0 wrote:
    figuerres wrote:
    show us the real url?


    btw, sometime ago somebody requested others not to post long urls no more.... Instead to use tinyurl to shorten them. You guys are not easy to please

    How about putting up meaningful link text and making that the url. Like this.

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    figuerres

    Stitch 2.0 wrote:
    figuerres wrote:
    show us the real url?


    btw, sometime ago somebody requested others not to post long urls no more.... Instead to use tinyurl to shorten them. You guys are not easy to please


    well what can I say?

    just that I don't like blind redir when I don't know the sender of the url; not calling any names just that anyone can post and I have never met the poster.
    also I have not seen any other news about this.

    but it does look like it is real so far.

    so I guess this is a leak.

    in vpc I see a bunch of legit looking files like a msft eula and a readme file with specs.

    downloaded 13 megs of files and see what I get at the end.

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    figuerres

    irascian wrote:
    figuerres wrote:
     
    I have some problems with that:

    3) nothing new is on MSDN subscriber files -- should


    Actually I got MSDN notification via their RSS feed before this link was posted.

    But the RSS notification link just takes you to a "Download not found" page - this seems to happen a lot. It happened with Beta 2 and Win 2003 SP1. It seems the RSS feed gets updated before the files are available on MSDN downloads.

    But I'm not chasing any tinyURL that takes me to an unknown executable.


    thanks for that info.

    which feed by the way? MSDN has a bunch of them.

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    Tom Servo

    figuerres wrote:
    tom did you do that or where did the link come from?

    Yeah, was a quick test to show to somebody it's indeed a build that runs on beta 2. Sadly there's no SDK (yet), so no XAML magic.

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    figuerres

    Tom Servo wrote:
    figuerres wrote: tom did you do that or where did the link come from?

    Yeah, was a quick test to show to somebody it's indeed a build that runs on beta 2. Sadly there's no SDK (yet), so no XAML magic.


    seems to have a *LOT* missing from it!

    I think this is some internal thing that got leaked or something like that....

    just too strange...

    I'd like to hear more .... I know they are working on a build to publish "this month" perhaps this is a test of the base but needs the sdk and some tools to be ready to drop for real.

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    PerfectPhase

    Hi, tinyurl used to show you the target link before it redirects.  Anyway the link came from the microsoft.public.windows.developer.winfx.avalon newsgroup and is in full

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/info.aspx?na=90&p=&SrcDisplayLang=en&SrcCategoryId=&SrcFamilyId=b789bc8d-4f25-4823-b6aa-c5edf432d0c1&genscs=0&u=http%3a%2f%2fdownload.microsoft.com%2fdownload%2ff%2fa%2f3%2ffa3b19ba-6129-41e8-93d8-498cc6b52b14%2fwinfxsetup.exe


    It's an express style installer that pulls down about another 20Mb.

    There look to be many breaking changes since the last CTP so don't expect any of the current samples to work stright of the bat.

    Take it or leave it it's your choice.

    Stephen.

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    figuerres

    PerfectPhase wrote:
    Hi, tinyurl used to show you the target link before it redirects.  Anyway the link came from the microsoft.public.windows.developer.winfx.avalon newsgroup and is in full

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/info.aspx?na=90&p=&SrcDisplayLang=en&SrcCategoryId=&SrcFamilyId=b789bc8d-4f25-4823-b6aa-c5edf432d0c1&genscs=0&u=http%3a%2f%2fdownload.microsoft.com%2fdownload%2ff%2fa%2f3%2ffa3b19ba-6129-41e8-93d8-498cc6b52b14%2fwinfxsetup.exe


    It's an express style installer that pulls down about another 20Mb.

    There look to be many breaking changes since the last CTP so don't expect any of the current samples to work stright of the bat.

    Take it or leave it it's your choice.

    Stephen.


    thanks for the info.

    I did not want to be to paranoid but the blind link was kinda un-settling you know?

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    PerfectPhase

    Tom Servo wrote:

    Yeah, was a quick test to show to somebody it's indeed a build that runs on beta 2. Sadly there's no SDK (yet), so no XAML magic.


    There's xaml magic, it's knowing what's changed in the magic that seems to be the trick without the updated SDK. 

    Stephen

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    irascian

    figuerres wrote:


    thanks for that info.

    which feed by the way? MSDN has a bunch of them.


    http://www.thundermain.com/rss/ 

    The URL looks a bit odd but it's one of a bunch I subscribed to when I found the MSDN RSS feeds (too long ago to remember when).

    FeedDemon displays this as "Microsoft Download Center" and gives a home page of http://www.microsoft.com/downloads

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