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Windows Media Player 11: "Early 2006"

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    ZippyV

     For MPEG-2 decoding products in hardware or software (such as those found in set-top boxes, DVD players and computers equipped with MPEG-2 decode units), the royalty is US $2.50 from January 1, 2002 and $4.00/unit before January 1, 2002. (Sections 2.2 and 3.1.1).

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    W3bbo

    So how do those FOSS DVD decoders get around it then?

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    Jaz

    more than likely they're breaking the law, like many chinese DVD players, just cause it's FOSS doesn't mean it's not breaking the law

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    Tom Servo

    Just thought of it, since the new version comes out before Avalon Final, I take it both the XP and LH versions will be plain GDI apps?

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    dotnetjunkie

    ZippyV wrote:
    I hope we will get a WMP that is completely removable from a Windows Server system.

    Why on earth would you want that?
    On more than one occasion, I found myself needing WMP on a server, to be able to access some content or use server applications that rely on it...
    And even if you never use it, it doesn't sit in the way (takes virtually no diskspace)!
    Your request is the same as saying that for example calc.exe should be removed from a server...

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    NeoTOM

    IanD wrote:
    <img src="/Ink/Posts/632528467228217150.gif" border="0" alt="'hope they fix the large library problem Windows Media Center uses wmp for its music library and it's very slow on large "bays Ian " />


    Note the caption fixed your incorrect its/it's use. You used one for both. Remember: it's=it is.

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    NeoTOM

    Tom Servo wrote:
    footballism wrote:    MPEG-2 namely DVD playback-This is what I expect from the upcoming WMP11.
    Unlikely, because DVD software player companies would go ape(I need to watch my language) over that, and more lawsuits against MS would happen.


    Isn't Microsoft a member of the DVD Consortium now so they can package MPEG-2 with Longhorn?

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    footballism

    Jaz wrote:
    more than likely they're breaking the law, like many chinese DVD players, just cause it's FOSS doesn't mean it's not breaking the law

    I've never heard of any Chinese software companies being punished for including the MPEG-2 codec in their products.

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    Hondacber

    Hello i'm hoping that WMP 11 will rip the FULL QUALITY of (20BIT HDCD encoded CD's)
    Because as of now when you setup WMP 10 to encode in WMA (LOSSLESS codec) when you rip an (HDCD) the file is DOWN SAMPLED to 16BIT which to me IS LOSSEY.Do you know if they are going to UPGRADE their ripping tools?
    For example the name of the new codec would be(WMA 10 LOSSLESS HDCD encoder)I also understand that older CD's are NOT HDCD's so the playres ripping tool will rip it in 16BIT but if i put in a HDCD it should AUTOMATICALY rip in FULL 20BIT.Then when i right click on a (HDCD) file thats playing & go to properties under (AUDIO CODEC) it should say (Windows Media Audio 10 Lossless
    VBR Quality 100, 44 kHz, 2 channel 20 bit 2-pass VBR)
    Also when an HDCD file is playing it should DISPLAY something like (HDCD FILE PLAYING).

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    MagusOSY

    Someone disable that guy's shift key. Wink

    Some library speed improvements would be nice. Smiley

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    Michael Griffiths

    Bit old, but...

    footballism wrote:
    I've never heard of any Chinese software companies being punished for including the MPEG-2 codec in their products.


    Chinese companies can do what they want because the laws only apply in the US - sometimes the EU/etc.

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    Tom Servo

    Hondacber wrote:
    HDCD blah

    Uh, HDCD is physically a 16bit audio stream, like regular CD audio. Except that it's a cheap hack. The lowest significant bit will be used by HDCD to carry a control stream, that toggles a bunch of filter and dynamics compression option in a HDCD decoder. What you get is either a 16bit stream with increased quantisation noise on regular playback equipment, or a 15bit stream reprocessed in a DSP. Yay for that.

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    The J

    Hondacber wrote:

    Hello i'm hoping that WMP 11 will rip the FULL QUALITY of (20BIT HDCD encoded CD's)
    Because as of now when you setup WMP 10 to encode in WMA (LOSSLESS codec) when you rip an (HDCD) the file is DOWN SAMPLED to 16BIT which to me IS LOSSEY.Do you know if they are going to UPGRADE their ripping tools?
    For example the name of the new codec would be(WMA 10 LOSSLESS HDCD encoder)I also understand that older CD's are NOT HDCD's so the playres ripping tool will rip it in 16BIT but if i put in a HDCD it should AUTOMATICALY rip in FULL 20BIT.Then when i right click on a (HDCD) file thats playing & go to properties under (AUDIO CODEC) it should say (Windows Media Audio 10 Lossless
    VBR Quality 100, 44 kHz, 2 channel 20 bit 2-pass VBR)
    Also when an HDCD file is playing it should DISPLAY something like (HDCD FILE PLAYING).



    It would be nice to see more formats in WMP to rip to.  For now, you can use dbPowerAMP to do rip CDs in Windows Media Audio 9 Professional 24-bit if you also get the Windows Media 9.1 codec pack.

    I'd mainly like to see more format support and more library organization options.

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    Spitfire15

    Hey thanks. That gives me an idea. If W3bbo keeps on going about the MSN Music button and stuff he doesn't like in WMP10, then that will calm him down. Tongue Out

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    rjdohnert

    And just let me guess, no Windows 2000 support?

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