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    manickernel

    One of the things I am grateful to C9 for is that it introduced me to the many blogs by individual MS employees. I really did not realize they were around until some of the threads and links in the Wiki took me there. I tend to gravitate towards those with hard information like Ellen Brown's, but once on one you go to others and anyhow... Now today I was following the little spat between FC and Scoble and some of the comments about blogging in general and Microsoft's somewhat unique and open attitude towards it, especially for such a large company. and wondered if it might be changing the management model just a teensy weensy bit.  Though I don't claim to know much about internal management style at MS, I imagine like most large companies it is pretty much top down. Managers only have to answer (despite feel-good initiatives) to their superiors, but maybe the blogs are changing this. Maybe it is becoming more bottom-up. Hmmm.

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    jamie

    hey
    manic

    this
    is
    the
    opposite
    to
    what
    you
    posted


    that
    i
    agreed
    fully
    with

    its
    called
    ENTER

    Wink



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    jamie

    beer - how much would they have to pay you?

    seriously

    to say anything they want - you get whatever

    ?

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    ScanIAm

    I guess I missed the time period when Joel was important.  Now, all I see is some ex-Microsoftie taking potshots at his old company.  In all reality, it may just be a good way for both FC and MSFT to drum up business...controversy breeds interest, ya know.

    Either way, Joel has always come off like a digerati primadonna and he's yet to convince me that he has anything useful to offer.  He's just playing the "make a lot of noise so I can stay in the spotlight for my whole 15 minutes" game.

    Joel, if you are reading this, please remember that you don't run MSFT, you run some 3rd rate software company that nobody's heard of save for your rants. 

    1998 called and it wants its overblown hype back.

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    jamie

    ScanIAm wrote:


    1998 called and it wants its overblown hype back.


    ok im sorry - ive posted a few LOL / haha posts already today

    so

    hahaha lol

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    manickernel

    Totally missed the point Beer. The exchange between Scoble and Joel is an illustration of the influence that bloggin is having. Of course, if you just want to jump on the anti-Microsoft bandwagon you could just go to /.  Oh, but then you would just be one little fish among several thousand, here you get to feel important and different.

    Smiley

    EDIT: Oh, Jamie. When I saw your post I thought I was being hit by the old page spread bug, even though everything looked ok on Fedora editing with FireFox. So I rebooted into XP just to check. Wazzup?

    EDIT2: Beer you could have gotten the two post below into one box, but then I guess you like seeing your name a lot.

    Edit3: Oh and your claim that MS had to go through multiple choices for a Linux expert is sooooo typical slashdot. Just make wild claims without any idea of the facts to prove your prejudice.

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    Michael Griffiths

    Beer28 wrote:
    I enjoy reading /.


    Really? Smiley

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    ScanIAm

    Beer28 wrote:
    jamie wrote: beer - how much would they have to pay you?


    It's irrelevant. I bet Robbins was like the 30th linux expert they had to call before somebody actually said yes....

    And BTW, I'm not classifying myself as any type of expert, I'm probably just an intermediate level coder. I'm just saying, I bet they had a busy week of pleading with people and voiding checks.


    Good question, Jamie. 

    Beer, if MSFT offered you $1Mill to come work for them, would you turn them down?

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    manickernel

    Beer,

    Look at the ghost of Christmas Future

    (I mean, I feel this guy's pain)

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    jamie

    oh come on.. a million dollars?

    you must want to be here for some reason

    youd be saying yes to a million to not "denounce" oss - but to help ms understand it ...say...

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    ScanIAm

    Beer28 wrote:
    ScanIAm wrote:
    Good question, Jamie. 

    Beer, if MSFT offered you $1Mill to come work for them, would you turn them down?


    I would probably would have to. I'm really not microsoft material, with an exclamation point. I may have wanted to work for a company like MS when they were in those small offices in New Mexico, but not now. Hey fog creek has a pinball machine, I'm going to apply!!! (jk)

    http://www.fogcreek.com/About.html

    haha,

    At any rate, I think my next indy release is going to do a-ok, so I'm not worried about it.




    OK, so we now know your integrity can be bought, now we're just negotiating price, right?

    Sorry, I couldn't help it.

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    manickernel

    OK, from the about FC page:

    That means management, not coding, is the support function. Management is not here to make decisions, but to get all the furniture out of the way so that software developers can do great stuff.

    ..and that is what I think blogging is contributing to for Microsoft, although it may only be in bits and pieces.

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    jamie

    i just dont see any HUMAN turing down a million to do anything

    not in a post - or a hypothetical thing


    a real brief case - one million - beer come to seattle - or anyone here - me you anyone

    you going to say no to a million?

    cant grasp that

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    ScanIAm

    Beer28 wrote:
    ScanIAm wrote:
    OK, so we now know your integrity can be bought, now we're just negotiating price, right?

    Sorry, I couldn't help it.


    How's that? I wrote I wouldn't work there for a million dollars. I wouldn't work there for a billion dollars. I'd rather earn a living doing what I like.


    My bad.  I misunderstood your response.  I guess you truly are what you appear to be.  Of course, I'd be willing to bet you'd take the offer. 

    Nothing personal, but for 1Mill, I'd buy new friends who didn't think i'd sold out...

    For $1Billion, I'd buy their families Smiley

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    jamie

    hey im left wing liberal - but if the right wants to pay me a million haha

    ill take it and use it against them Tongue Out

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    ScanIAm

    For a million, I'd dance on FDR's grave Smiley

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    jamie

    its fun pretending to be a millionaire - oh well back to reality - good to see we all still have our scruples Smiley

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    manickernel

    Hey guys.... nevermind.

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