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Where are the .NET blogging solutions?

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    sbc

    Where are the .NET blogging solutions?

    Makes a good point. PHP has a whole range of systems, yet .NET only really has dasBlog and .Text. Even then .Text is now part of Community Server and not a seperate independant blogging solution. Where can you download it as a standalone program?

    It is the same with other systems, like Bulletin Boards. Where are the free BB systems for .NET, with the same quality and developer community as phpBB?

    What I would like to see are ports of projects like WordPress, phpBB and phpMyAdmin to .NET (one tool that can work with many databases with a .NET provider). A lot of open source projects tend to be based around open source languages and platforms. Perhaps the issue is because there is a lack of free tools for developing .NET (SharpDevelop excluded). There are no free tools for ASP.NET (apart from WebMatrix, which IMHO is poor as it reformats your code and when you open a page done in Dreamweaver stops it functioning).

    I think .NET projects should come with batch files for compiling, NAnt tasks and SharpDevelop projects. Not everyone has, or can afford Visual Studio, so it should be easy to just download a project and just upload it to a webserver where it automatically sets up when you go to a certain place (a simple compilation before uploading may be acceptable). Also, when you use Visual Studio, it uses CodeBehind="file.cs", so is useless for anyone who doesn't have it (changing to src="file.cs" may fix that though, via find and replace).

    I expect .NET 2.0 may change a lot of that though.

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    W3bbo

    Me and Sven are working on it, <scouse>alright</scouse>? Smiley

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    wkempf

    Straight up blogs, not many.  Portal systems that can be used for blogging, there are several.  Cayohuga, Rainbow, MojoPortal, DotNetNuke, etc.

    There's a difference in the communities.  Win developers/users are used to picking one good product (pay or free) and sticking with it, while open source developers/users shop around more and are more likely to make their own.

    I don't believe the free tools have much to do with it.  There are enough out there (you didn't come close to listing them all) to get the job done.

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    sbc

    W3bbo wrote:
    Me and Sven are working on it, <scouse>alright</scouse>?

    Good luck on that. Try not to make it dependant on Visual Studio by making batch files and / or NAnt build files available. Perhaps even include a SharpDevelop project file while you are at it (and whatever MonoDevelop uses).

    Perhaps post it on SourceForge as it would get wider coverage.

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    zakoops

    I was recently faced with my poor findings for ASP.NET blogging tools...

    See my wanderings on that subject. It sums up the situation I think...

    As mentioned on my site, that situation on IIS is abysmal and I decided to create my own system in C#. Would be tempted doing it in ASP.NET 2.0 but I need that system now, so I'm going for 1.1.

    And contrary to what sbc points out, I do not expect .NET 2.0 to change this crying deficiency in the Microsoft universe! LAMP platform has too much going on in features and popularity...

    I even thought changing to an Apache server and get freely WordPress which is excellent. But I do need ClickOnce on ASP.NET 2.0 for future prjects!

    I really think that Microsoft should provide a Starter Kit made specifically for blogging with Visual Web Developer 2005. It should be a mandatory offering to help the .NET framework!

    Was forgetting to add that actual blogging tools on ASP.NET are really poor in features and are awfull from an accessibility perspective, as well as for xhtml and css standards.

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    geekling

    sbc wrote:
    W3bbo wrote:Me and Sven are working on it, <scouse>alright</scouse>?

    Good luck on that. Try not to make it dependant on Visual Studio by making batch files and / or NAnt build files available. Perhaps even include a SharpDevelop project file while you are at it (and whatever MonoDevelop uses).

    Perhaps post it on SourceForge as it would get wider coverage.


    It is easy to achieve that functionality by using DotNetPrebuild - it can generate project files for sharpdevelop, NAnt, Visual Studio, and (apparently) plain old' batch files from one XML file.


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    ScanIAm

    W3bbo wrote:
    Me and Sven are working on it, <scouse>alright</scouse>?


    OK, so I'm using .text and

    a) I can't seem to disable comments (to avoid comment spam)
    b) my bogus, pointless site is aparently a great place to buy viagra (according to the trackbacks)

    That said, Please, please tell me when you are ready to test it out.  I need new blog software.

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    Minh

    ScanIAm wrote:


    OK, so I'm using .text and

    a) I can't seem to disable comments (to avoid comment spam)
    b) my bogus, pointless site is aparently a great place to buy viagra (according to the trackbacks)
    I moded my .Text comment stuff & haven't gotten any spam since. See if you can spot the ultra high-tech method I used.


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    Steve411

    I modded the administration section of .TEXT on my server [xblogs.org] so that the users/bloggers can disable the enhanced post security. Smiley

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    blowdart

    I rolled my own. And it's been a pain in the (I need to watch my language) ever since Smiley However I am / will be invovled in SubText, a branch of .Text. Community Server blows, so Phil Haacked branch the old .Text code and we're working on fixing the old bugs, before heading down rewrites. Me? I doing a plugin model once the first release is stable, I aim to make it as easy to write plugins for subtext as it is to write ones for movable type. I'm planning proxy and URL checkers to come as standard, along with (maybe) a Technorati cosmos search. We're also aiming to move the database stuff to a provider model, so you can use MySQL if you like, and maybe the file system like dasBlog has. We're currently discussing if we should just target v2.0 of the framework. As for targetting other compilers than VS. Well I doubt that's going to happen soon. MSBuild might be a good idea, if it was flexible enough without extra tasks.

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    eagle

    The Community Server team are planing a single blog app using SQL Express, but not till they move to ASP.Net 2.0 in 1/06.

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    ScanIAm

    I'm embarassed to admit it, but I'm useless when it comes to ASP.Net (or any asp, for that matter), so I haven't gone in to fix the issue.  I suppose that once I get some free time, I'll have to make a change. 

    BTW, Minh and Steve411, those are both good ideas for blocking the Poker and Viagra idiots Smiley

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    sbc

    geekling wrote:
    It is easy to achieve that functionality by using DotNetPrebuild - it can generate project files for sharpdevelop, NAnt, Visual Studio, and (apparently) plain old' batch files from one XML file.

    Where do you get that from? Does it actually have a GUI tool (or one that can convert between the systems), as writing an XML file could take a lot of work by hand?

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    eagle

    Your total lack of imagination is holding you back.

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    zakoops

    Actually, there is a large-scale movement towards nice blogging sites proud to show that their web pages do validate. Look at their footers for things like xhtml, css, 508... Clear semantics and presentation layers do provide for easier maintenance of web or blog sites.

    Achieving that requires some thought with ASP.NET but it's feasible.

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