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Adobe concedes: Flash for Mobile browsers abandoned, HTML5 is the way forward

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    Ray7

    Well, looks like Jobs called it.

    Adobe has announced that Flash for Mobile browsers will not be developed any further. HTML5 is the way forward.

    Some of the pundits will no doubt call this a win for Apple, but I think it's really a lesson in putting all your eggs in a single company's basket.

    Adobe says that they will continue with Flash for PCs, but over the next few years, most of the browsing will be done on mobile devices (if it's not already), so what's the point. 

     

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    @Ray7:

    I wouldn't say Job's called it as so much as he caused it.

    With plug-in free IE in W8 that'll finish off the PC side of the house.

    It's too bad this is so premature with much of HTML5 still up in the air.

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    AndyC

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    @Ray7:

    It's too bad this is so premature with much of HTML5 still up in the air.

    Indeed. But it might actually be enough to stop the endless comittee discussions dragging on over every little thing and instead get people to really focus on what actually matters in getting real world problems solved.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , AndyC wrote

    *snip*

    Indeed. But it might actually be enough to stop the endless comittee discussions dragging on over every little thing and instead get people to really focus on what actually matters in getting real world problems solved.

    And all the while developers have to jump through hoops to make things cross-browser compat. The end user experience it none the better for it either. I don't recall much success back in the day with browser wars causing problems with compatbility getting solved any faster (or ever).

    If we all believed in unicorns and fairies the world would be a better place.
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    Bas

    Ugh. What a horrible time to be a web developer.

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    lensman

    @Bas:Not at all.  Shakeups like this present us with an opportunity to shine.  Do you prefer to go to work where each day is the same hum drum or do you prefer to work in an environment where the bar has been raised and you must step up your game.

    I prefer the latter.

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    magicalclick

    , lensman wrote

    @Bas:Not at all.  Shakeups like this present us with an opportunity to shine.  Do you prefer to go to work where each day is the same hum drum or do you prefer to work in an environment where the bar has been raised and you must step up your game.

    I prefer the latter.

    Haha, that's a good way to look at it. Harder = less competition = better for us. Of course, that only works if we can handle it. But, I suppose, that's why some jobs are better paid to begin with.

    Leaving WM on 5/2018 if no apps, no dedicated billboards where I drive, no Store name.
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    AndyC

    @DeathByVisualStudio: Well the HTML5 crowd has been bleating on for ages about all the hideous proprietary technologies getting in the way of their pristine web development work and making everything harder than it needs to be.

    You make your bed, you lie in it. Them's the rules. Smiley

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    fanbaby

    , Bas wrote

    Ugh. What a horrible time to be a web developer.

    I differ. It's the best of times. The tool chest is brimming. Every good tool is free and  open. I just heard of trello on another thread. Went out and check it. Cool. Look at the tech stack: nodejs, backbone, mongodb etc. . They are agile developers. Every thing is bubbling (in a good sense).

     

    The only unhappy faces are Microsoft developers who where promised the world.

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    Ray7

    , lensman wrote

    @Bas:Not at all.  Shakeups like this present us with an opportunity to shine.  Do you prefer to go to work where each day is the same hum drum or do you prefer to work in an environment where the bar has been raised and you must step up your game.

    I prefer the latter.

    Agreed. This is a great opportunity to pick new skills and new jobs that'll pay higher until everyone else starts jumping on the bandwagon. Any developer who cares about their career should always be on the look out for the next big thing. 

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    Ray7

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    @Ray7:

    I wouldn't say Job's called it as so much as he caused it.

    Heh.

    Yes, I suppose that's another way of looking at it. The bloke was obviously some sort of dark jedi. 

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    Ian2

    We need the empire to strike back.

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    Bas

    , lensman wrote

    @Bas:Not at all.  Shakeups like this present us with an opportunity to shine.  Do you prefer to go to work where each day is the same hum drum or do you prefer to work in an environment where the bar has been raised and you must step up your game.

    I prefer the latter.

     

    I prefer an environment where I don't have to deal with HTML and javascript.

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    Dr Herbie

    I prefer an environment where I can just get on with solving my customer's problems without too much ceremony and without having to constantly keep up with changes to the toolset (which is why I like C# at the moment).

    Herbie

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    TomboRombo

    @lensman:Your wrong and your thinking is WRONG.  I want to be more productive with complicated problems.   Making a complicated environment for an easy problem makes the world go backwards.   I heard the same bullcrap with Microsoft COM and their IDIspatch, Cocreateinstance, etc.   It died and Java killed it.  Microsoft then hired Anders and got .net and C# going.   Developers happy again but now we are invited to take another step backwards.  The dumb developers think this is job security or something stupid like that.   If you like that kind of thinking go become an attorney where simple things are complicated on purpose.   Why dont you just program in assembly and tell everyone how good you are at it.   This fight is not over and Microsoft will backtrack because Google already sees the light on web programming.

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    figuerres

    , Ian2 wrote

    We need the empire to strike back.

     

    no i want a "Return of the Jedi"  thank you.... Angel

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , AndyC wrote

    @DeathByVisualStudio: Well the HTML5 crowd has been bleating on for ages about all the hideous proprietary technologies getting in the way of their pristine web development work and making everything harder than it needs to be.

    You make your bed, you lie in it. Them's the rules. Smiley

    Exactly. And Microsoft is climbing into that bed with both feet.

    If we all believed in unicorns and fairies the world would be a better place.
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    Ray7

    , Bas wrote

    *snip*

     

    I prefer an environment where I don't have to deal with HTML and javascript.

    Mmm. Not a lot of love for Javascript round here.

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