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    vesuvius

    The new design is available. Personally, I thought they would go far much further, but they are probably going to phase in their design progressively getting flatter and flatter.

    the music player on the right is pure "Metro" inspiration, Jensen Harris and the team @ Microsoft should feel flattered

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    spivonious

    Wow, except for the home screen of icons, none of those things would look out of place on Windows Phone. If only Microsoft had brought it out a bit sooner.

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    Bas

    Looks very Metro-y indeed. Kind of a blend between a pastel Metro and... some sort of custom Android/FirefoxOS/Ubuntu skin. Still icons on a grid, though. I kind of expected them to blow everyone away again.

    I like the use of transparancy, though. And I really like the subtle parallax scrolling effect when you tilt the phone. I think that (in combination with the animated start screen backgrounds) would look great in W8 as well.

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    Oh no, the camera app is shouting at me.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , Bas wrote

    *snip*

    I like the use of transparancy, though. And I really like the subtle parallax scrolling effect when you tilt the phone. I think that (in combination with the animated start screen backgrounds) would look great in W8 as well.

    Here! Here! Bring back Areo and the Zune parallax effect.

    Nice job Apple... Copied to perfection...

    It'll be interesting if all of this catching up will equate to the return of Apple's dominance or will it be more like the release of Windows 8. Being that they really haven't changed the game with iOS7 I hope this is the end of the ridiculous drooling over all things Apple. That's said I'd also like to see Apple, Google, and the like step up their game in providing a more seamless experience. 

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    cbae

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    *snip*

    Being that they really haven't changed the game with iOS7 I hope this is the end of the ridiculous drooling over all things Apple.

    Not bloody likely.

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    GoddersUK


     "Game Center: We just completely ran out of green felt," Federighi joked. "And wood as well. This has got to be good for the environment."

    Microsoft wrote:

    This style of simulating faux-realistic materials (such as glass or aluminum) on the screen looks dated and cheesy now, but at the time, it was very much en vogue.

    Good call, Microsoft. Although, for the record, I don't think either Aero or Aqua looks cheesy and dated just yet... (most other attempts are irl impersonation, however, do)

     

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    Ray7

    , vesuvius wrote

    The new design is available. Personally, I thought they would go far much further, but they are probably going to phase in their design progressively getting flatter and flatter.

    the music player on the right is pure "Metro" inspiration, Jensen Harris and the team @ Microsoft should feel flattered

    Go much farther. Why?

    Here's the thing: Apple does not build stuff for geeks. They wouldn't make wholesale changes to the  UI just for the sake of it. That sort of thing just annoys the customer base for no good reason. As for going flat and monochrome? They went for the opposite of flat and monochrome; they went for brighter colours and 3D. Not sure how the UI would look against different backgrounds, but beta testers say that the UI colours adjust depending on what's in front and behind. Still, I'll wait and see...

    Secondly, Apple doesn't innovate. It takes a look at what's out there, nicks it and puts it together in a better package, and that's what it sells. In fact, most of Apple's success probably comes from watching the mistakes of others. I imagine that Ive must've seen the reaction to Microsoft's overhaul of the desktop and decided to reign in his desire to run the whole OS from a single, 'simple' icon. Most of iOS7 has been borrowed from WebOS by the looks of it: the unshaded UI (not the big monochrome tiles from Windows, which I'm glad about). The new app switching thingy is a direct lift from WebOS (even uses the same swipes), and the control centre is very similar to the one that runs in Android. Thinking about it, I shouldn't be surprised: WebOS was designed by ex-Apple bods. They also bought a big wodge of Palm patents earlier in the year; now we know why. They lifted stuff from Windows Phone8 (the typography is very similar if you ask me) that I like and left out all the stuff that I didn't like – so I'm a very happy bunny.

    More things I like:

    The activation-lock. Stops folk from reselling stolen phones. Once word gets out then it should hopefully see the number of iPhone thefts fall.

    The control centre: Nice, but I don't think I'll use it much

    The cloud keychain: This'll make folk nervous.

    Improvements in the multitasking:  Now we can actually get a little more detail from the live icons. However, I'm hoping that we won't end up with a screenful of icons that shift and change for no good reason. 

    I can get a female voice on Siri! About time!

    Tighter integration with OSX and iCloud: expected. They've pushed file tagging to the fore, which means that they're getting folk ready to say goodbye to the hierarchical file system. 

    iWorks Web! Pages, Numbers and KeyNote in a browser. 

     

    Things I didn't like:

    No mention of app development for AppleTV. 

     

     

     

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    ScanIAm

    I'll be honest, I kind of hate the metro UI.  It looks like someone threw a bunch of legos on the floor at the last minute before a design meeting and decided to call it a theme, but it does serve its purpose.  The new IOS UI is heading down that same path, so yay, brightly colored dumb-looking phones are the new norm.

    I just don't get why the designers on every SyFy show for the last 20 years can come up with a better UI design than some hipster twit.

     

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    PopeDai

    , Ray7 wrote

    The activation-lock. Stops folk from reselling stolen phones. Once word gets out then it should hopefully see the number of iPhone thefts fall.

    I understand it's done in software - making it useless. Apple needs to implement hardware-based e-fuses to lock a phone down when it's reported stolen, thus requiring a visit to an Apple Store.

    The control centre: Nice, but I don't think I'll use it much

    I use a IntelliScreenX on my jailbroken 4S to provide similar functionality at the top of the notifications pull-down. It suits me fine. I use it to toggle Bluetooth and Wi-Fi on-and-off to save battery power when I know I'm not going to be using it.

    The cloud keychain: This'll make folk nervous.

    It looks cool, but the lack of Windows support kills it for me, but I have my own password manager service.

    I can get a female voice on Siri! About time!

    I have my 4S set to English (United Kingdom) because there's no way in hell I'll use mm/dd/yyy, which means Siri is the male voice. I get odd looks when people hear me using it (they must think I'm gay or something...)

    Tighter integration with OSX and iCloud: expected. They've pushed file tagging to the fore, which means that they're getting folk ready to say goodbye to the hierarchical file system. 

    Hierarchical filesystems don't play into Apple's notion of per-app data silos, but Microsoft introduced tagging in Windows Vista. No-one uses it because it isn't simple or straightforward like filenames and folders are - but the killer: this metadata is not preserved when moving files between systems. Also consider that OS X (even pre-BSD Mac OS) had loads of filesystem metadata fields in previous releases thanks to their dependence on resource-forks, but again, no-one uses them. I think they're forcing the issue, I fully expect this tagging feature to be downplayed in OS X 10.10.

    No mention of app development for AppleTV. 

    Not going to happen - I don't know why people keep on wishing for it. But I am surprised they haven't released Safari for Apple TV.

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    Dr Herbie

    , ScanIAm wrote

    *snip*

    I just don't get why the designers on every SyFy show for the last 20 years can come up with a better UI design than some hipster twit.

    Actually I thought Metro might have been partly inspired by the flat UI of the Star Trek Next Generation consoles ...

    Herbie

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    ScanIAm

    @Dr Herbie:I can see where there might be some inspiration there, but this site:

    http://www.lcarscom.net/

    Shows you how quickly metro falls short of what it could have been.

    I suspect that folks will get tired of minimalist UI in a few years and we'll move on to the next.  CPU/GPU power is no longer a limiting factor, so the design nerds have free reign to do whatever makes sense.  I just don't see metro as 'it'.

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    MasterPi

    @ScanIAm: Flatness and solid colors aren't really part of metro, though - they're just the unfortunate implementations of the design language.  Sadly, not many actually attempt to deviate from the standard templates, so you just get block designs in almost every app.

    I really hope in 8.1, they lax the live tile views a bit. I don't want to just edit properties on xml templates - I want to be able to display more complex visuals like charts and interact with my application through the live tile itself.

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    Blue Ink

    @ScanIAm: basing a whole UI on Impact isn't a crime, but it should be.

    The old Vision 2019 video contains a lot of Metro done right, even when you filter out the futuristic devices. The main difference I see between that video and the first-party apps that run on W8 today is the lack of cohesion; especially in terms of color themes.

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    handyman

    I have read the features of iOS7 and it seems that not much new. Its like improved windows8 though that new features are cool.

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    Bas

    Cocktailflow is still the shining example of metro without boxes. It's a damned shame so many people know about it yet none take it to heart.

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    Blue Ink

    Off a tangent: I completely missed the fact that Apple is now using Bing as the default search engine for Siri; a default you apparently cannot change. I suspect the switch has more to do with Apple "going thermonuclear" on Google than anything else, but it will still drive a lot of searches to Bing and that ultimately means better results. Kudos to the team.

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    ScanIAm

    , Blue Ink wrote

    ..s the lack of cohesion; especially in terms of color themes.

    Office is one of the biggest offenders.  I can pick from 8 or so colors for my WP7 UI tabs, but I still have to accept that the tiles for excel are green, onenote are purple, word is blue, etc.  I suppose it does serve the purpose of making it obvious what button (tile) I'm pushing, but it looks like a scrambled rubiks cube.

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