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    PerfectPhase

    This video should so be on the front page feature list rather than burried on the video feed!

    http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/TechTalk-NUI-Whats-in-a-Name

    Stephen.

     

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    Cream​Filling512

    I'm only 20 minutes in and this is awesome.  One of the best videos posted on C9 ever.

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    SuperSpit

    I love watching Bill Buxton Speak. I think he knows everything Smiley

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    SuperSpit

    I love watching Bill Buxton Speak. I think he knows everything Smiley

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    CKurt

    @PerfectPhase: Somehow I get the feeling the Rev9 frontpage has less content promoted to the front page. I missed some "Countdown to TechEd Europe" video's too, just noticed it today because there is now one featured and when I clicked trough I saw I missed some episodes in the 'Previous Episodes of this Show' column.

    Just watched the Bill Buxton video, he rocks as always!

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    dentaku

    @PerfectPhase: I would have never found that great video if it wasn't for this post.

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    ryanb

    I saw the Buxton video last week, but I agree that there are a lot of videos that get missed.  Every time I go wading through the Browse section, I am amazed how much content is there that I never knew existed ... and that goes back through the history of Ch9, not just with Rev9.  I know Charles has made comments about why the main page is the way it is, but there has to be a better way to handle the main page.

    The main page misses a lot of content.  It highlights some of the recent videos, but sometimes doesn't get updated very fast (I assume because it is done manually), and I question the selections that make it to that page.  I don't mean that in a critical way, just that the material "I" find most valuable sometimes never hits the front page, while other things get higher priority.  (This Week never misses the front page.)  All of the news feed and twitter nonsense stuff is just a waste of space in my opinion.

    Rotating more stuff through the main page highlights doesn't work very well either, since videos wouldn't stay there very long before being rotated off the page.  User customizations are probably the only way to improve the relevance of a highlight page like that.  It's not going to prevent missing some content.

    The general Browse page is the opposite end of the scale -- overload.  One has to regularly check there to not miss content, but it is a lot of stuff to wade through.  Maybe having better user content-type filters on a user-browse page would be a step in the right direction.  (But filtering always runs the risk of hiding interesting content in areas on may have de-emphasized.)

    I think it's the new features of Rev9 that have made me realize how much content I have been missing over the years (it's good that I can discover that).  But the point is that it is still too easy to miss content -- which tells me that something still needs to improve in the navigation/discoverability area.  Maybe the Ch9 design gurus can come up with some good new designs to help.

     

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    intelman

    I hope Bill Buxton stays for a while, and contributes quite a bit. Chief Scientist is a great title for him.

    I am pretty sad that Bill Hill left. Typography on Windows is not where it should be still. So many complaints about DirectWrite. People get fatigue from reading computer fonts. There has to be a software solution to make things better. Better higher DPI monitors will help too.

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    Charles

    @PerfectPhase: Done. I really like how this team puts together event pieces. Nice work.

    C

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    Charles

    @ryanb: Yes. We will get better at this, but please understand there is a LOT of content that comes through C9 (at varying levels of quality). This is exactly why we created the browse feature in this release: it solves the very problem you are identifying (unless you only spend your time on the home page or subsribe only to the default RSS feed).

    We appreciate the feedback. I will take it as a work item on how I manage the home page. In this case, I just need to hook this field team into the home page publishing process. Other than that, the problem can't be automated away and, again, Browse makes it rather simple to, well, browse ALL content on 9.

    C

     

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    ryanb

    @Charles:

    Thanks Charles.  Please don't think I was being critical of the way the homepage is being managed.  That wasn't my intention at all.  C9 has a lot of content (which we appreciate), and that is a difficult thing to manage.  The homepage highlights the "main" videos, and gets that right the vast majority of the time.  There's no way it could ever highlight every video considered important to every user -- nor should it try.  The new browse features of Rev9 ARE effective -- that's how I am now finding all of the content I have previously missed.  Managing the content is a complicated problem.  I don't have the magic solution, but I am sure it is something the team will work on over time.

     

    Keep up the good work.

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    Bas

    This is mindblowing. Thanks for pointing it out.

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