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    kettch

    @11101110: It's a good thing he didn't try to clone MySpace.

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    11101110

    @11101110: It's a good thing he didn't try to clone MySpace.

    MySpace was owned by Rupert Murdoch's NewCorp at the time and ran on Windows .NET BlueDragon servers where they had ported Cold Fusion over to C#. Microsoft was very friendly with MySpace/Newscorp and wanted to highlight it's success as a success of .NET and it's technologies.

    So no effort was made to clone it. 

    Microsoft placed a bet on it and lost:

    http://allthingsd.com/20101216/google-myspace-finally-land-new-ad-deal/

    The first deal got done when Myspace was white-hot, and Google was competing fiercely with Microsoft to lock up prime real estate.

    Now, of course, Myspace is well into a protracted decline, despite News Corp.'s efforts to turn it around (News Corp. also owns this Web site). And Microsoft isn't nearly as aggressive as it used to be on these kinds of deals.

    When that happened they helped a greater effort to deprecate it and instead turned to Facebook where they put $240M in order to corrupt their interests to those of Microsoft. It worked because FB now uses a lot of MS technology rather than Google's.

    http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/facebook-another-500-million-in-the-coffers/6755

    Microsoft will generally only clone a product when there is no other way for it to buy in. Google owned YouTube, Apple owned iPad. They couldn't buy into Netscape ect..

     

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    dahat

    , 11101110 wrote

    Does this all strike you as a very, very cheap, if not free publicity stunt?

    The real, non publicity stunt Bill Gates would have cloned Reddit, the way he tried to clone YouTube with Soapbox, Netscape with IE, iPod with Zune, iPad with Surface, Mac with Windows, ect... and made his own secret Santa.

    Says the father of Lincrosoft, Codiplex, and SiteSpaces.

    Speaking of SiteSpaces, did you know it has it's own UrbanDictionary definition? Quite telling in fact:

    1. Sitespaces

    Sitespaces is a Myspace Ripoff. How long will it last?
    Sitespaces is exactly like Myspace in every single way. Even the sign up process.

    Hypocrisy, thy name is BeerNutz.

    As to the point of him setting an example of using tax payer money to fund emerging countries with a small donation of $500 (that everyone can afford); 

    You keep lamenting that fact... only are you any better? When you previously wrote of your Surface RT purchase:

    , 11101110 wrote

    It was a business expense so there is no need to get rid of it. We will keep it as a relic of our time and a tribute to Steven Sinofsky, his creation forever preserved in plastic.

    If truly a 'business expense', then that would mean that a deduction would be taken for said purchase. It would seem that Bill Gates is using is rather meager tax deduction to help others, while you spoke of it being unopened & untouched after 3 months... and likely still in 10 years.

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    11101110

    Give me a few billion dollars then compare me to Bill Gates with all the personal attacks all you want. 

    I bet the creator of SiteSpaces wouldn't give back any of the money it made.

    And oh the Urban dictionary. It looks like your first point of reference. 

    Your attacks are pointless, and fruitless, ....and cowless for that matter.

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    AndyC

    I just love the idea that $500 makes a massive difference to Bill Gates tax bill. Keep up the crazy, Beernutz.

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    Bass

    Bill Gates is actually a reptilian from the planet Tee'Gak. He's conspiring with Keanu Reeves and the zombie of L Ron Hobbart to remove and destroy the harmonious natural time cube protecting the concurrent days of Earth from alien invasion. It's all documented in this informative documentary.

    The truth will set you free.

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    Dr Herbie

    , 11101110 wrote

    As to the point of him setting an example of using tax payer money to fund emerging countries with a small donation of $500 (that everyone can afford); 

    I would just like to point out that not everybody can afford this; I would certainly have to think hard before donating £306 (equivalent to $500) to charity because that is much more than my monthly disposable income after all the bills are paid.

    Herbie

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    Ray7

    , Dr Herbie wrote

    *snip*

    I would just like to point out that not everybody can afford this; I would certainly have to think hard before donating £306 (equivalent to $500) to charity because that is much more than my monthly disposable income after all the bills are paid.

    Herbie

    Well no one said that everyone can afford it; the point is that by donating less than a million quid, he demonstrates that doing what you can is just as good. If he gave fifty quid then people like our binary friend would accuse him of being a tight-fisted old meanie.

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    Ray7

    , 11101110 wrote

    Give me a few billion dollars then compare me to Bill Gates with all the personal attacks all you want. 

    Y'see there's the problem. 

    No one had gave him a few billion dollars. He earned it.  He left Harvard and became the richest geek on the planet.  What he didn't do was hang around forums all day, whining on about how evil people are because they refused to give him free stuff.

    So there's not much point making a comparison.

     

     

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    11101110

    @Ray7:

    The tech environment in the 1970s and 1980s let Bill make his fortune more than him being a business genius. That and the US stock market. And his wealthy mom and dad connecting him to his distribution channels.

    I meant to say that if I was also a billionaire able to spend large amounts of money on philanthropy and I gave a random secret Santa exchange a $500 cow in a foreign country as a publicity stunt, then, and only then feel free to personally attack me in comparison to Bill Gates.

    It's funny but if you look at the donation wall at the computer history museum in Mountain View, you will also see that Bill gave the least of almost any rich tech person at something like 60k. But they also have a hilarious description of Netscape Navigator in the product box caption from the mid-90s which he probably doesn't like.

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    kettch

    @11101110: So, nobody who has more than you actually earned it? They somehow got it through theft and graft? That's a pretty sad and bitter outlook on life.

    Unfortunately, I see it all the time. I'm nowhere near wealthy and probably never will be (not really a goal in life) yet I have people make snide comments to me once in a while calling me lucky or privileged. This is despite the fact that I've worked my * off my whole life.

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    Ray7

    , 11101110 wrote

    @Ray7:

    The tech environment in the 1970s and 1980s let Bill make his fortune more than him being a business genius. That and the US stock market. And his wealthy mom and dad connecting him to his distribution channels.

    Meaningless words. Gates did what every good businessman does: he took advantage of the environment and managed to beat competitors such as IBM who had several orders of magnitude more connections, access to distribution channels and wealth than Gates' parents.

    Sheesh.

    I meant to say that if I was also a billionaire able to spend large amounts of money on philanthropy and I gave a random secret Santa exchange a $500 cow in a foreign country as a publicity stunt, then, and only then feel free to personally attack me in comparison to Bill Gates.

    The problem here is that you can only see as far as the money.  As I said before, the purpose of the donation was to highlight the charity so that more people donate the charity.  This is why charities have celebrity patrons.

    It's funny but if you look at the donation wall at the computer history museum in Mountain View, you will also see that Bill gave the least of almost any rich tech person at something like 60k.

    Did you type "Evidence that Gates is a skinflint" into Google? 

    You know what, I reckon I can find at least half a dozen charities that Ebenezer Gates hasn't given a single dollar! 

    Hah! Here's one: Celebrity Underwear for Charity. I heard that Gates hasn't donated so much as a pair of old Y-fronts! Seriously, I don't know how he can show his face in public.

    I'm sorry, what was your point again?

     

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    11101110

    Gates did what every good businessman does: he took advantage of the environment and managed to beat competitors such as IBM who had several orders of magnitude more connections, access to distribution channels and wealth than Gates' parents.

    http://articles.latimes.com/1994-06-11/news/mn-2837_1_mary-gates

    Her tenure on the national United Way committee is believed to have helped Microsoft at a crucial time in its development. In 1980, she discussed with then-IBM Corp. Chairman John Opel, who was also on the United Way committee, the business IBM was doing with Microsoft. Opel, some accounts say, knew little about the venture, but mentioned Mary Gates to IBM executives who introduced Microsoft at a meeting of IBM's top-level management committee a few weeks later. IBM contracted with Microsoft, then a small firm specializing in computer languages, to create an operating system for its first personal computer.

    It's funny you should generalize and just say things like that, because his mom actually got Microsoft their initial big contract with IBM which lead to their exponential expansion in the early 1980s.

    No Bill was not such a genius recent college drop out that IBM wanted to distribute his software just because he was such a great guy. No he didn't go beg to Peter Theil like Mark Zuckerberg after moving to California with little money.

    Misconception resolved -

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    Proton2

    The other day I ran across a video in my personal archives of digitized VHS tape recordings from TV broadcasts from the last century... and there's Bill Gates and some computer code on the screen. As he cursors down the text, you can see the screen redrawing in such a way that it looks a bit like a wave of refreshing text.

    The main points of the video was: The code was vastly more complex that a Boeing airliner class jet.

    Unlike Apple, Microsoft's Billions of dollars of its worth was the software. That's what the narrator actually said. Ironic now that Microsoft is transitioning to a devices and services...

    If anyone is interested in the video, I might upload it somewhere, somehow as soon as I figure out this Internet thingy Smiley

    I believe the video is from the American version of a multi-part series "The Machine That Changed The World". You can Bing that for further details.

    I was going to archive more of the series this summer now that hard drive prices had fallen beck to reasonable levels, but my VHS machine no longer outputs video, just audio. Sad

     

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    Proton2

    Didn't I see Bill Maher donate one million dollars to get Obama re-elected ?

    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/24/news/la-pn-bill-maher-obama-super-pac-20120224

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    Ray7

    , 11101110 wrote

    *snip*

    http://articles.latimes.com/1994-06-11/news/mn-2837_1_mary-gates

    *snip*

    It's funny you should generalize and just say things like that, because his mom actually got Microsoft their initial big contract with IBM which lead to their exponential expansion in the early 1980s.

    No Bill was not such a genius recent college drop out that IBM wanted to distribute his software just because he was such a great guy. No he didn't go beg to Peter Theil like Mark Zuckerberg after moving to California with little money.

    Misconception resolved -

    No, not really. With IBM's resources they should have been able to crush Microsoft on numerous occasion when that particular relationship  went south. 

    http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/11/half-an-operating-system-the-triumph-and-tragedy-of-os2/

    As the article states:

    But Gates wasn't smart. He was smarter.

    In exchange for giving up perpetual royalties on MS-DOS, which would be called IBM PC-DOS, Gates insisted on retaining the rights to sell DOS to other companies. The lawyers looked at each other and smiled. Other companies? Who were they going to be? IBM was the only company making the PC. Other personal computers of the day either came with their own built-in operating system or licensed Digital Research's CP/M, which was the established standard at the time.

    That is where Bill Gates set the course for Microsoft; not from the introduction from his mother. Let's face it, after the introduction he could have just carried and become quite wealthy by just staying in IBM's pocket.

    But he didn't, did he? You don't build a company like Microsoft by just riding your momma's coattails (or copying other folks' websites).

    Did his mother open the door for him? Possibly, but lots of people have doors opened for them and fail to capitalise. And that's really no different from what you yourself did: You took someone else's idea, copied it. Gates had a leg up, and so did you.

    Y'see even with an introduction, Gates still had to sit down and prove to IBM that he was a viable supplier. Or do you seriously think that IBM are going to take such a huge risk on the say-so of someone's mom?

    My original point is that a good businessman plays the environment; nothing you've said disproves this unfortunately. Gates's legacy is still here. Where's yours?

    You probably think that had your mum had the contacts then you would have been as successful as Gates. I sincerely doubt that would be the case.

    But an interesting woman that Mrs Gates. I had no idea.

     

     

     

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    Ray7

    , kettch wrote

    @11101110: So, nobody who has more than you actually earned it? They somehow got it through theft and graft? That's a pretty sad and bitter outlook on life.

    Unfortunately, I see it all the time. I'm nowhere near wealthy and probably never will be (not really a goal in life) yet I have people make snide comments to me once in a while calling me lucky or privileged. This is despite the fact that I've worked my * off my whole life.

    The irony is that these people would probably achieve much more if they didn't waste so much energy being envious of those who've achieved much more.

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    dahat

    , 11101110 wrote

    Give me a few billion dollars then compare me to Bill Gates with all the personal attacks all you want.

    Or... you could go out and earn it... or right you've tried... and no such luck getting anywhere near yet, eh?

    I bet the creator of SiteSpaces wouldn't give back any of the money it made.

    Bob Dole thinks you should stop talking in the third person.

    Bob Dole thinks it's funny that you ask for someone to give you a billion dollars to be charitable with, but you think it requires that degree of cash on hand to give away $500.

    And oh the Urban dictionary. It looks like your first point of reference. 

    It tends to happen when it's the second result for a Bing search for SiteSpaces.

    Your attacks are pointless, and fruitless, ....and cowless for that matter.

    Attacks? Who said I am attacking? This is me once again encouraging you to get help. You act here as though you are some expert in the world of finance, startups, marketing, software development AND investing... yet your track record says just the opposite. To say you have delusions of grandeur is an understatement... and the sooner you open yourself up to a professional helping you with these things, the sooner you can stop blaming others for their successes & your failures.

    This is of course where you go on the attack towards me saying how I clearly have experience with such things (no? Would you like me to cite some previous times of you doing so?) and the like... yet one doesn't have to lay down on the shrinks couch to know you have serious issues Chris, the sort that will only get worse without serious professional help.

    , Ray7 wrote

    The irony is that these people would probably achieve much more if they didn't waste so much energy being envious of those who've achieved much more.

    That assumes they valued the results of a good days work, long term planning & delayed gratification for the short term thrill of just %(&#ing all of the time.

    Edit: Say Beernutz, it's funny you commenting on my link to UrbanDictionary... as I have it on good authority you yourself linked to that very same page back in 2011 to justify your own arguments. What then does that say about your 'first point of reference'?

    Again Chris, you have too much history here. Us long timers know you, your history and issues far too well to let you escape them... why then return so much to a place that can so easily remind you of your need for help?

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