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    Maddus Mattus

    @cbae: So if the guy is wrong on creationism, he's wrong about the rain in Texas?

    What if it turns out he is right about the rain in Texas, that would mean that creationism is actually true!

    The horror!

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    Maddus Mattus

    , cbae wrote

    *snip*

    Backpedaling again, I see. You have that move down to an art.

    Where did I backpadel?

    I claimed we have no impact on the climate, I did not say we have no impact on our environment.

    If you look at floods, if they are in fact increasing, you will find that local land use changes is most likely at fault. Mudslides at Haiiti for instance, they cut down the trees on the hill and the hill comes down in a mudslide. Same with the glaciers, land use changes are more likely to impact them then the CO2 concentrations.

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    cbae

    , Maddus Mattus wrote

    @cbae: So if the guy is wrong on creationism, he's wrong about the rain in Texas?

    What if it turns out he is right about the rain in Texas, that would mean that creationism is actually true!

    The horror!

    It's not just about being right or wrong. It's about not taking responsibility for ANYTHING. Why even hold the office of governor if your only move is to encourage others to pray to an imaginary god to fix all the plights of the world?

     

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    cbae

    , Maddus Mattus wrote

    *snip*

    Where did I backpadel?

    I claimed we have no impact on the climate, I did not say we have no impact on our environment.

    Do you really think that the elimination of a large body of water has no impact on the climate there?

    If you look at floods, if they are in fact increasing, you will find that local land use changes is most likely at fault. Mudslides at Haiiti for instance, they cut down the trees on the hill and the hill comes down in a mudslide. Same with the glaciers, land use changes are more likely to impact them then the CO2 concentrations.

    Localized environmental destruction impacts micro-climates. The global climate is an aggregate of all the micro-climates.

    Let's take this from a different angle. Do you think we can affect the climate globally if we simultaneously set off all the nuclear arsenals held by all the countries of the world?

     

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    Maddus Mattus

    , cbae wrote

    It's not just about being right or wrong. It's about not taking responsibility for ANYTHING. Why even hold the office of governor if your only move is to encourage others to pray to an imaginary god to fix all the plights of the world?

    That's a whole different story. I don't believe in a god either, but I respect the beliefs of others if they do, as long as they do not force their belief onto me. That's why I have such an issue with this climate bullcrap, it's starting to sound like a religion and debating with proponents is like debating with religious people.

    Do you really think that the elimination of a large body of water has no impact on the climate there?

    Global climate. no. Local climate, no. And why are you asking me? You are the one making the claim!

    Localized environmental destruction impacts micro-climates. The global climate is an aggregate of all the micro-climates.

    Micro climates? First I heard of those. Climate is all weather processes over a longer period of time, there are no micro climates.

    Let's take this from a different angle. Do you think we can affect the climate globally if we simultaneously set off all the nuclear arsenals held by all the countries of the world?

    Would you think a tax on nuclear missiles would solve the problem of a nuclear winter?

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