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But Why?-does Windows keep losing desktop icon locations

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    androidi

    Just had this happen twice within a week on Win7 64 after uninstalling SP1 RC (I think I had it happen atleast once with that installed as well but can't recall for sure).

    I decided to look around and what you know. There's atleast four utilities to save and restore the locations... If this is so uncommon problem that it's not worth fixing *once and for all*, why is there so many utilities from 3rd parties to workaround MS's bugs?

    I know there's been attempts to fix this bug atleast in Vista:

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961085

    one would think that patch is already in 7 (?) and still the problem persists.

    In my mind I can see some kind of comic sketch that "explains" the "gruesome details" of saving and loading some coordinates. Having heard some native Windows API stories who knows, maybe it IS rocket science, with multiple coordinates involved and all that?

     

    * eg. by storing several copies of the desktop icon locations and then if some of them magically changes without the user being involved then maybe send a report and offer some Action Center note to ask if user wants to restore the previous icon locations once or every time they magically change.

    I think it'd be right to classify this as a data loss/corruption bug, user data, the locations of where I positioned the icons is being lost. Maybe *now* there's the incentive to put some time to fix it.

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    rhm

    It's been happening since the desktop became a folder in Windows 95. I expect Raymond Chen has a blog post somewhere that attempts to explain (and excuse) the behaviour, like he does for everything that's broken and awful in the Windows shell.

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    ZippyV

    The service pack probably triggered a change of your resolution causing your icons to rearrange.

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    dentaku

    I've found that Win7 remembers desktop icon positions amazingly well. I've started up my computer with only one monitor so all the stuff that was on monitor #2 moved to #1 then I restarted the computer with #2 connected adn all the icons went back to their original positions.

    I'm wondering if this is a special feature of the OS or maybe it's like in the old days and Nvidia's drivers have someting to do with this nice feature?

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    Heywood_J

    , androidi wrote

    Just had this happen twice within a week on Win7 64 after uninstalling SP1 RC (I think I had it happen atleast once with that installed as well but can't recall for sure).

    What were you doing when the icons changed position?  The only time I have ever experienced a problem with this is changing the resolution of the desktop and maybe once or twice when Windows didn't shut down properly because of a crash.

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    magicalclick

    It remembers if you "logoff", but, not "shutdown". Why does shutdown-logoff different than logoff? Beats me.

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    AndyC

    @androidi: In my experience, 90% of times that icon layout gets messed up it's the fault of shoddy third party shell extensions trying to be clever.

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    androidi

    I have a custom 87 hz 1280x1024 mode created with Nvidia control panel but changing to 1020x768 for a moment doesn't atleast immediately lose the locations since auto arrange isn't enabled.

    Hard to say what the shell extensions could be doing with this (Have few that AFAIK only modify the right click context menu). This isn't really a daily problem for me (in past year) and there's already 3rd party workaround so I don't want to waste time on investigating it, was more of an announcement that 1) problem not fixed completely 2) it's possible to fix completely, in several ways

    A more regular annoyance I'm having in Win 7 is that the desktop rendering starts to jerk sometimes affecting scrolling windows and the taskbar thumbnails. Restarting Themes service immediately fixes it - for a while. I wonder if Nvidia's old Vista drivers can be put into Win 7 to see if that resolves it more permanently - could be to do with WDDM 1.1.

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    magicalclick

    That sounds odd, but, I am using ATI, so, I would know what you experienced. But, I haven't heard this from other nVidia users. Could be something more than just drivers?

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    androidi

    Update:

    Icon locations lost again - they are definitely lost during boot from user perspective. What triggers the loss? I suppose it could be to do with playing around with the resolutions in Nvidia control panel after all since that's the only out of ordinary thing I did (changed to low res and back, locations weren't lost during the period that icons did not all fit onto the desktop with auto-arrange off).

    If that is the case then in other words:

    Icon locations stored in 2 places, one representing the on screen locations and one the "backing locations" restored upon boot. So switching resolution affected the backing location but not the on screen location.

     

    I'm going to try a program called Iconoid to restore the locations back, I read that it should work in win7 64 bit. (Already tried DesktopCmd64.exe and it didn't restore all icons properly)

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