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    Ian2

    I've censored this for Channel 9 but my daughter, who is 9, can see the uncensored version right now.

    Surely 4 letter words have some auto alerts?

    Zune Offensive

     

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    davewill

    @Ian2: As a dad also, that is worrisome.

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    spivonious

    @Ian2: Which is worse, that there's a video with that title, or that Microsoft displays it? Tongue Out

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    kettch

    @spivonious:I think the display is the problem. Yes, there are a lot of songs out there with inappropriate titles. If I had kids, I would think that those should be buried and only be found if you are looking for that song or artist. If lots of people are watching it and it shows up on an automated list...who knows.

    Maybe age filters are needed in the settings. I'm not about to say that people can't listen to what they want, but give parents the tools that they need to keep their kids safe.

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    Ian2

    @kettch:I don't think its an age filter thing - I was offended (and I am pretty old)

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    kettch

    @Ian2:I'm offended too, and I'm not old. Change the name from an "age" filter to just an "explicit content" filter. I don't need that kind of crap staring at me. Why can't those top lists, and new releases be filtered based on my musical tastes, which Zune already should know a lot about?

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    ZippyV

    Wow, looks like some people are easily offended or just narrow minded. I'm glad I don't have to hear censored songs on the radio and that annoying noise everytime someone swears on tv in Belgium.

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    magicalclick

    The rating comittee should do this. I mean, you don't see Barnny with such "Episode 123: F you" because the committee will rate it PG13. It is not up to the movie theatre to erase the title because they don't agree on the decision of the committee.

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    W3bbo

    , ZippyV wrote

    Wow, looks like some people are easily offended or just narrow minded. I'm glad I don't have to hear censored songs on the radio and that annoying noise everytime someone swears on tv in Belgium.

    I think uncensored English-language songs get away with it in mainland Europe on the expectation that young 'uns might not know the language too well at that age... (that said, I remember at age 11 the first thing I did in my first day of French classes was to look up translations for swears in the English/French dictionary).

    I imagine if I had offspring between 7 and 10 I would want to censor that kind of material; not for any prudent moral reason about "protecting" children from reality, but of the insidious influence that language has at that age. The more people swear around you, the more likely you are to swear yourself. There are more creative and amusing (not to mention polite) ways of expressing displeasrure than simply quoting Eminem, and that's my point really.

    Besides, if an artist gets popular because of its language and not because of the quality of their music I don't think they're worth listening to. I'd let my crotch-fruit listen to all the Who and subversive politico-rock all they wanted, but not a 50-Cent CD simply because the 'music' is awful.

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    rhm

    The whole concept that kids need to be protected from swear words is a funny one.

    It's more like the parents want to be protected from the embarassment of their kid using the word in public.

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    Ian2

    @rhm:I don't agree.  You have two kids in front of you trying to win your affection, one is polite and charming the other swears a lot ...

    Most peoples' first impresions would favour the former over the latter, it has nothing to do with emabrassment. 

    Not understanding the impact that swearing can have on those around you is to be the unwitting owner of an impediment.

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    Zeus

    I don't think it's about the word itself, it's about parenting. I have an eight year old, and I am quite sure that he and his friends use a totally different language amongst themselves than he does around us, his parents.

    He knows wo don't condone that type of language, and he would never, ever use that sorf of language around us.

    Put you can't shield them from everything, these things have a way of popping up, and there is nothing you can do about it.

    My advice, talk to your doughter about this and explain ... education is the best prevention.

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    Bass

    I don't see what the big fooking deal is. Seriously.

    Is it like a game parents play to see how long their kids can go without being exposed to certain "forbidden" words? 

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    androidi

    I recall* stuff from that age and lot of it went unexplained and was forgotten. I suppose these days it's different since if someone doesn't explain a nasty thing to you then it's so easy to look it up without risk of getting weird looks or someone offended.

    * OK I don't recall all the weird stuff, only that it was nearly a hobby for some to come up with new words to talk about daily/weekly.

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    Dr Herbie

    @Bass: I wouldn't say it's a game, but I would certainly like my kids to maintain their innocence for as long as possible; it's a carefree, stress-free state that is the privilege of the young.

    I was quite a sweary child (culturally, Scotland is quite sweary).  I started censoring myself at the age of about 13 when I realise I had used the F-word twice in one sentence in everyday conversation with my mother.  Scared

    When my kids are older, and no longer in a state of innocent grace, I shall explain the meanings of the swearwords they find ("It's a crude old Saxon word for sex"), but I shall also impart the importance of using them in context (when alone with friends is OK, but not when your in a public place) and the importance of using them sparingly lest they loose their impact; how do you express anger when you swear all the time anyway?

    I still don't want to see them used in pop songs of al things.

    Herbie

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    Ray7

    Having sat behind a couple of swearing  kids on a bus the other day, I really can't see the problem. If your daughter is nine then I'd be really surprised if she hasn't seen this word already, or heard it on the telly, or heard one of her friends say it. I think this 'keep them innocent for as long as I possibly can' thing has been pretty much a pipe dream since the first web page went up.

    Roll Deep are pretty decent listen though.

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    Ian2

    Unless the world just changed on me seeing this word in the Zune marketplace without any filtering (or options to filter) is just plain wrong to me.

    Like I say, maybe I got old and the world changed without asking my permission?

     

     

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    CKurt

    , ZippyV wrote

    Wow, looks like some people are easily offended or just narrow minded. I'm glad I don't have to hear censored songs on the radio and that annoying noise everytime someone swears on tv in Belgium.

    +1

    About the Zune Website. The person who inputted this song and the title just should have put in F*ck you ore something. But then again, like nobody will figurre that out.

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