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Cool things in Windows 8.1

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    Ian2

    A thread for cool, (or not so cool?) things you notice while using the 8.1 preview:

     

    When you click on an Add within a Modern App the browser now opens the ad in a split screen - so your app is still up (unlike in 8 when your App would disappear)

     

    - Oh, and the 'show more tiles' option (settings->tiles->show more tiles)

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    AndyC

    You can replace the Command Prompt with Powershell on the Win+X menu. What more could anyone possibly want?

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    cbae

    , AndyC wrote

    You can replace the Command Prompt with Powershell on the Win+X menu. What more could anyone possibly want?

    Separate menu options for each?

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , AndyC wrote

    You can replace the Command Prompt with Powershell on the Win+X menu. What more could anyone possibly want?

    Make the Win+X menu completely configurable with folders, jumplists, and all? Optionally opened with a left mouse click instead of right? Optionally opened with the Win key by itself? Smiley

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    felix9

    try this:

    1, drag a metro app to the bottom to close it.
    2, open Task Manager and see its process is still there, then bring it back.

    what ? Perplexed

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    cbae

    Is there a way to access the Win+X menu (WTF is the "official" name of this anyway?) using the touch screen?

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    cbae

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    *snip*

    Make the Win+X menu completely configurable with folders, jumplists, and all? Optionally opened with a left mouse click instead of right? Optionally opened with the Win key by itself? Smiley

    TBH, the Win+X menu should have been made "Metro-based", rendered in the right-side pane (i.e. like the search pane or settings pane), and made accessible from a button on the charms menu. That way, you can access it by touch or by mouse left-click. Right-click on the lower-right corner is unintuitive and undiscoverable.

    The charms menu has plenty of room for more buttons, and the "Share" button can be banished to oblivion for all I care to make room for another button if need be.

    Edit: Here's an idea. Make the charms menu configurable (i.e. allow us to pick and choose which buttons are displayed there, and have a catch-all "All Charms" button to access any of the buttons we choose to hide.)

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    Ian2

    @felix9:I think the process for the app hangs around for (less than) a minute after which time it should disappear from the task manager.

    BTW Came down this morning to find some really cool animations of some of my pictures prior to logon - nice!

     

    Oh, the devices charm menu now makes more sense!

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    felix9

    @Ian2: nope, not like that. On Windows 8, if you leave a metro app in the background idling, it might get terminated by OS, but if you close it, its terminated. On Windows 8.1, its not terminated even if you close it, and its still there after hours at least. weird behaviour, and could be privacy concerns, since others can reopen the app you thought you have closed, and return to the point you leave it.

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    Ian2

    @felix9:That is odd, I imagine that won't happen in the RTM though(?)

     

    Just Spotted this - Right Mouse on the Start menu = quite a few new options that were not there before? (EG Powershell as admin)

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , cbae wrote

    *snip*

    TBH, the Win+X menu should have been made "Metro-based", rendered in the right-side pane (i.e. like the search pane or settings pane), and made accessible from a button on the charms menu. That way, you can access it by touch or by mouse left-click. Right-click on the lower-right corner is unintuitive and undiscoverable.

    The charms menu has plenty of room for more buttons, and the "Share" button can be banished to oblivion for all I care to make room for another button if need be.

    Edit: Here's an idea. Make the charms menu configurable (i.e. allow us to pick and choose which buttons are displayed there, and have a catch-all "All Charms" button to access any of the buttons we choose to hide.)

    I always thought the Win+X menu, while extremely useful, was a hack that the Windows engineers put in because accessing those tools as regularly as some do through the start screen would be a PITA. Pinning the individual items to the taskbar isn't the answer because it would eat up too much real estate.

    While I like the idea of a configurable charms bar (like loosing the share button that IMO will never be implemented for desktop apps) I don't think tucking Win+X under there makes it much more usable (but yes on discoverable). I'm for fewer clicks. How about a gear button on the right side of the taskbar that's optionally always present that pops up the menu? It would be like the start button. I wouldn't mind if it were metro based as well.

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    cbae

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    *snip*

    Pinning the individual items to the taskbar isn't the answer because it would eat up too much real estate.

    *snip*

    No, no, no. That's not what I'm saying. It would be a right pane, Metro-style menu invoked from an "admin charm" on the charms bar. My point of about the customizability of the charms bar is in the case if somebody felt that adding one more charm would make the charms bar too crowded.

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    Craig_​Matthews

    , AndyC wrote

    You can replace the Command Prompt with Powershell on the Win+X menu. What more could anyone possibly want?

    Off the top of my head, the ability to delete directory trees is something I might want.

    -Recurse [<SwitchParameter>]
         Deletes the items in the specified locations and in all child items of the locations.

         The Recurse parameter in this cmdlet does not work properly.

    Powershell rocks.

     

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , cbae wrote

    *snip*

    No, no, no. That's not what I'm saying. It would be a right pane, Metro-style menu invoked from an "admin charm" on the charms bar. My point of about the customizability of the charms bar is in the case if somebody felt that adding one more charm would make the charms bar too crowded.

    Sorry that comment was attributed what I thought the thought process that went behind the Win+X might have been.

    I think they should bring back some form of gadgets and let us stick them in the charms bar. You know because static icons are so 90's...

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    cbae

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    *snip*

    Sorry that comment was attributed what I thought the thought process that went behind the Win+X might have been.

    Ah. Yup, I misunderstood what you meant. Sorry. Smiley

    I think they should bring back some form of gadgets and let us stick them in the charms bar. You know because static icons are so 90's...

    Maybe they'll eventually open up the API a bit to allow this: WinRT-based "gadgets" that you can purchase from the store. They'd be like full Metro apps, but, by default, they run smaller than full screen size and pin to the right side of screen like you can manually do with regular apps in 8.1. The benefit is that you won't have to manually pin the app that way AND the way you pin it would persist across reboots.

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    Dr Herbie

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    *snip*

    I think they should bring back some form of gadgets and let us stick them in the charms bar. You know because static icons are so 90's...

    But I liked the 90's. I was at my peak  Crying

    Smiley

    Herbie

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    Ian2

    @Dr Herbie:Oh crap, I liked the 70's ....

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    cbae

    When you install subsequent editions of Windows 8.1 you'll be able to keep your personal files, but you'll need to reinstall your apps.

    Does anybody know what "apps" means in this context? Is this a reference to only Windows Store apps or does it include full desktop applications as well?

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