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Cultification of Microsoft

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    wastingtime​withforums

    What the heck:

    http://www.neowin.net/news/former-microsoft-executive-latest-to-slam-steve-ballmer-in-tell-all-book#comment-2074367

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    record profits and revenues, making xbox replace playstation as a household
    name, bing taking %30 of U.S market, Windows 8 success,

    recently his approval rating by his employees has skyrocketed, i wonder why?

    So many angry people spreading fud and misinformation.

    Microsoft puts Windows 8 out there, the best operating system on the planet that does everything from desktop to mobile,and all the android and apple lovers are so angry that they
    have been and are using something so inferior and cheap looking,that they start
    throwing skewed and flawed information to try to tarnish Windows 8's
    success.

    In the end though, Microsoft ALWAYS wins. ALWAYS. Even if they take their sweet time, they ALWAYS win.

    They are now entering the hardware market, and thats got every single tech company shivering in their boots

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    I see a ton of Microsoft cultists now, they are getting way worse than the maccies and Linux aficionados (never thought this could be possible!) In fact they are MUCH worse - maccies are usually far less agressive and although the "freetards" are very agressive, I've got to admit that they pretend at least to "stick it to the man", while the microslaves want to serve the man with zeal apparently. So they are zealots AND corporate whores.

    Anyhow, this cultification is really worrying. MS used to be the most cult-free platform, now it's surpassing all of them in this regard.

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    warren

    Oh-ho-ho, there's no way this is a new thing.  I saw it all on the comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy Usenet newsgroup back 20 years ago, which, I have to say, was waaaay more entertaining from a trolololol perspective than anything a Channel9 poster could come up with today.  

    People at the time (but not a lot of them) were predicting that OS/2 and Mac OS would die out because of Windows 95 and NT.  This of course was not at all obvious coming into 1995, given how much momentum IBM and Apple had, but it's actually what happened.  Microsoft went on to outsmart OS/2 on the compatibility and user-friendliness front, and they became Apple's sugar daddy in order to keep their Office for Mac business alive and kicking.  They won, just like the zealots predicted.

     

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    wastingtime​withforums

    MS zealots were few and far between Amiga zealots, Atari zealots, Linux zealots, OS/2 zealots, Mac zealots.. of all the OS advocacy newsgroups, the Windows one was one of the smallest in terms of posts.

    Any MS zealotry left also pretty much died in the mid 90s, since then it was almost cult-free. Until now.

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    cbae

    Anecdote much?

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    Proton2

    @wastingtimewithforums: Why did you leave out Commodore 64 zealots ? Crying  It was my first computer, and I still have it, along with my Betamax machine. 

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    Craig_​Matthews

    , wastingtime​withforums wrote

    MS zealots were few and far between Amiga zealots, Atari zealots, Linux zealots, OS/2 zealots, Mac zealots.. of all the OS advocacy newsgroups, the Windows one was one of the smallest in terms of posts.

    Any MS zealotry left also pretty much died in the mid 90s, since then it was almost cult-free. Until now.

    Been in this mess since the Commodore PET and there have always been platform zealots -- mostly from the Amiga and Apple II/MAC base. Windows was pretty much universally hated until Windows 95 (anyone who was there knows this), and OS/2 was pretty much getting equal coverage when 95 came out and there was an honest decision to be made between OS/2 and Windows 95 from a computer user standpoint (back then also, it was more enthusiasts instead of today's 'average  user'). At this time, there were tons of OS/2 fans. 

    Really wasn't much Windows fanboyism/zealotry at all, most PC enthusiasts were trying different operating systems, a lot still used DOS, and as far as I can remember, the main reason Windows 95 "won" back then was because IBM forgot that you actually have to put OS/2 in a store in order for people to buy it.

    From 95 to XP, I don't remember much fanboyism at all, just years and years of Microsoft being accused of being evil because they had the audacity to include a web browser in the OS. There was a lot of defense of MS, but I wouldn't call it fanboyism .. the browser war stuff was just stupid.

    It really started with the Vista era where we started getting "news" articles about how people who find a problem with a Microsoft product have a mental disease and should be locked up (including Thurrott before he had a 100% change in opinion - I wonder if the amount of his paycheck has changed or frequency of free product deliveries has changed). It's also at this time that Microsoft stopped beta testing or listening to any customer feedback.

    That's not to say MS are the only ones. In the time we live now, it's normal to ignore customer feedback and nowadays you don't even need fanboys who like the product -- you just need to hire people to write comments on software distribution sites or give tech "journalists" free products before they write the next article on some computer site.

     Edit to add: I'm not specifically accusing Microsoft of buying fanboys -- I do find it odd, though, that lots of comments defending Windows from "normal users" tend to use a lot of phrases like "fast and fluid" and "better than ever" as if they're following a job aid. Sure, some people might, but most of them praising a product using the same terminology as the marketing dept when describing their own experience? Never have I seen that to such an extent except in the software industry where buying forum posts is accepted and SOP.

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    Bass

    I know it is "hip and chic" to be a anti-fanboy fanboy. But having fanatical devotees is not a bad thing at all. It's good to have people who will buy your products no matter how much they suck or are generally non-competitive. Apple relied on their devotees to help them survive through hard times for instance.

    It is dangerous however, for the employees of a company to be overly fanatical of their work, because they lose the ability to perceive failure and ignore or attack criticism.

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    magicalclick

    Well... Bing really get 30% of US market? That sounds pretty sweet. As for the Ballmer article. Who do I to judge? He managed to rack up whole lot of "profit" and "profit margin" while taking his sweet time making Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 and yet to be released Office 2013 (the earning report does not include all three sales ofc). But I would like to say, With WinPh, Skydrive, Win8, Hotmail, Xbox Music, Xbox. The circle is quite complete. Ballmer pushed the Skydrive and nicer looking MSN, Bing, outlook.com.

    Leaving WM on 5/2018 if no apps, no dedicated billboards where I drive, no Store name.
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