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Do I have to pay for Word/Excel/OneNote on x64 Win8?

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    magicalclick

    Do I have to pay for Word/Excel/OneNote on x64 Win8? Typically yes, but, seeing WOA has it build-in, do we get the same Office goodies on x64 version? If I have to pay, I will just buy WOA and hook it up to my monitor. Eventually I will just game on WinRT, so, less games is not an issue for me.

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    ZippyV

    Is Office free? No.

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    figuerres

     

    , ZippyV wrote

    Is Office free? No.

    well this will be interesting ....   on one hand the price point for the WOA slate needs to be low enought to sell it.

    will there be a low priced sku that does not have the office bits ?

    or will there be one sku and they all get the office bits as part of the package ?

    if a WOA slate will be priced to compete with the android and iPad then how will microsoft be able to sell folks office  for more than say $100.00 *IF* the slates are priced at less than $1,000.00 total?

    we do not have prices so that is just a "what if" but given that most folks look to spend less than $2,000 for a "top end" consumer laptop and many folks find cheap ones now for around 600-800

    and the iPad sells in the same range then i think the WOA packages will have to fit in that price range to be competitive in the market.

    let's see what they said:

    "WOA includes desktop versions of the new Microsoft Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and OneNote. These new Office applications, codenamed "Office 15", have been significantly architected for both touch and minimized power/resource consumption, while also being fully-featured for consumers and providing complete document compatibility."

    source:

    http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/02/09/building-windows-for-the-arm-processor-architecture.aspx

    Hmmm.....  does this mean that every WOA gets office on arm

    OR

    does this mean that if i buy a WOA device i get a DVD / download to put office on my desktop pc that runs windows 8 ??

    as written it could mean ether of the two.

    EDIT:  i have no idea why a "Transalte this page" thing got stuck in there... removed it i hope.

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    Blue Ink

    @figuerres: Considering the context (and other articles) I'd say that "desktop version" just means "not on the Start Screen version".

    Now; tablets don't make dangerous competitors to laptops/desktops as far as content creation is concerned, so giving away a full-featured version makes sense. Except that it sets a dangerous precedent MS might regret someday.

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    figuerres

    , Blue Ink wrote

    @figuerres: Considering the context (and other articles) I'd say that "desktop version" just means "not on the Start Screen version".

    Now; tablets don't make dangerous competitors to laptops/desktops as far as content creation is concerned, so giving away a full-featured version makes sense. Except that it sets a dangerous precedent MS might regret someday.

    yes that may very well be what they mean.

    I think office as a money maker for MS is at an interesting point, most of the sales that i have seen in the last year have been the "Home and Student" key card not the Business / Pro versions.

    so office is now really a $100.00 item for most folks today  i guess....

    so will it now drop in price another notch ??

    and i recall when it was like $400 - $500 to get office pro back in the day and *EVERY ONE* got it

    now i am sure they still sell the $500 Pro SKU but to how many users ??

    interesting times ...

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    spivonious

    "WOA includes desktop versions of the new Microsoft Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and OneNote. These new Office applications, codenamed "Office 15", have been significantly architected for both touch and minimized power/resource consumption, while also being fully-featured for consumers and providing complete document compatibility."

    Fully-featured for consumers does not mean that it's the full Office we use today. Consumers don't use too many features of Office.

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    magicalclick

    @spivonious:

    Isn't that the point? If I own a company, I would just give my sales people a Win8 WOA and save tons of money since they are not going to use awesome fully featured Office anyway. And I can make my employee feels cool about themselves with all the build-in sensors that a typical notebook would not have, it is a win-win.

    This certainly may have impact on their business market. Although that's not my focus. I am only thinking build-in Office is very attractive. I don't use much Office on my notebook, it is just there in case I need to use it. I use IE and VS mostly, which I am certain MS would have VS on ARM for WOA devs. And I rarely game on my notebook anyway.

    My next portable PC will most likely be WOA because of the cool offering. Since I used x86/64 for so long, I am trying to see if I can get the same office goodies without switching to ARM. Maybe it is just a version of Office Starter Free? Also it has OneNote to sync with my phone, which is cool.

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    AndyC

    Sinofsky already stated there will be only one SKU on ARM and it will include Office. It'll be the full version of  the Office applications (nothing else makes sense) though won't include the less consumer-centric bits (Access, Groove etc).

    Cost is pretty much irrelevant, those machines will be so heavily baked into a Microsoft ecosystem, since it's the only place to obtain further apps, that there will be room for a certain amount of subsidy which x86 machines (that can get apps elsewhere) won't benefit from.

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    felix9

    Hmmm.... so Outlook will be the only ong Metro-style Office app ?
    http://www.winrumors.com/microsoft-office-15-full-metro-ui-screenshot-leaks/

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