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Does anyone use on-line backup solutions?

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  • donut

    @Dr Herbie:

    , Dr Herbie wrote

    @Bas: I'm just using a scheduled daily Windows 7 backup to the external HDD.  Blu-Rays will be done manually, mainly for backup of photos and video.

    Herbie

     

    Don't forget to encrypt the data on your external HDD using bitlocker or something similar. That way if someone steals your external HDD he/she will not have access to all your sensitive and confidential data.

  • GoddersUK

    , Bas wrote

    Also: I've got time to kill in either Delhi or Chandigarh. Anyone have any tips?

    Well today's spammer clearly does Wink

  • Proton2

    , donut wrote

    @Dr Herbie:

    *snip*

     

    Don't forget to encrypt the data on your external HDD using bitlocker or something similar. That way if someone steals your external HDD he/she will not have access to all your sensitive and confidential data.

     

    Speaking of lost data:

     

    The suit filed by the trio of firms seeks $600 million in compensation. That's approximately $1,000 per person affected by the loss.

     

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/story/2013/01/22/wdr-human-resources-loans-lost-lawsuits.html

     

    A simple solution like bitlocker seems well beyond them.

  • GoddersUK

    @Proton2: We have similar issues quite frequently here in the UK. Forget the lack of encryption, WTF are they doing storing large databases of citizen information on laptops/portable hard drives/DVDs/USB drives? They're retards for not encrypting it, but they're double, mega, triple, big fat stupid retards for storing it on these media in the first place. Leave it on your servers. Yes, make an off site back up, but don't carry it round with you. Find a safe somewhere to put it in, if it's a DVD, tape etc. Or, better yet, use servers in a second data centre for your back up.

  • Proton2

    , GoddersUK wrote

    @Proton2: We have similar issues quite frequently here in the UK. Forget the lack of encryption, WTF are they doing storing large databases of citizen information on laptops/portable hard drives/DVDs/USB drives? They're retards for not encrypting it, but they're double, mega, triple, big fat stupid retards for storing it on these media in the first place. Leave it on your servers. Yes, make an off site back up, but don't carry it round with you. Find a safe somewhere to put it in, if it's a DVD, tape etc. Or, better yet, use servers in a second data centre for your back up.

    The MSM was complaining that Canada is 5 years behind the USA in getting such data onto centralized servers. I don't know if this is true or not. Nevertheless, BitLocker sure would seem to be a cheaper solution than risking all these law suits. But then we are talking about a beuraquacy. But then, Canadians have come to expect good government, at least from the federal conservatives Smiley

  • ScanIAm

    I have seen agencies store sensitive data in SQL express on a local 'client' as a way to cache slow operations.

    I have seen otherwise intelligent developers shrug and say "meh, that's what they wanted".

    I have left those positions.

  • GoddersUK

    @Proton2: Don't get me wrong, BitLocker (or other encryption) would be better than nothing. But even then that would seem to be a case of the voting machine fallacy:

    And that's *another* crypto conference I've been kicked out of.  C'mon, it's a great analogy!

     Even in cases where they don't have the infrastructure saving it on laptops and other portable devices is asking for trouble. If needs must a desktop firmly locked to a secure fixing would be better...

  • Dr Herbie

    Bugger it, my hard-drive died this morning!

    Lucky I have backups on my external HDD ...

    Herbie

  • blowdart

    , Dr Herbie wrote

    Bugger it, my hard-drive died this morning!

    Lucky I have backups on my external HDD ...

    Herbie

    My desktop C: developed a fault this week. Woohoo for drive cloning.

  • Craig_​Matthews

    I've been trying to find an online backup solution that's affordable for a really small business that happens to have a server. Unfortunately, most are either woefully inadequate (250GB is nothing. Some really small businesses have big files), or if they have a reasonably priced plan at about 2TB or unlimited, their client software will only install on a workstation class PC and not the SBS box where the files are, even though it's advertised as a business plan.

    The only one that seems reasonable is CrashplanPro for small business, but I'm really worried about the page where you select your plan ... what it basically boils down to is "Pay $7.49/month for unlimited, or pay thousands a month if you choose a capacity." Huh? 

    I think the only online backup I'm going to be doing is telling my client to get a PC at her house with enough space and just run the CrashPlan software peer to peer, and it'll only cost the hardware and Windows 7 license.

  • ScanIAm

    You'll have to show me what you are talking about

    The crashplan marketing seems specifically set up to get you to buy the monthly unlimited.  You need to recognize that it will take some time to get that data out to the cloud (especially if you have hundreds of gigs), but other than that, the Plus (+) plan is just fine for most purposes.

  • Craig_​Matthews

    @ScanIAm:

    We went with the Crashplan Pro and chose the unlimited plan, pretty much the best pricing for a single SBS server small business --- what I was confused by earlier was their "choose the best plan" selection wizard becomes stupid apparently if you specify a quantity of "1" computer. So you get an outrageous comparison of "Should I pay $35/mo for 100GB or $7/mo for unlimited? Gee."

    It was not until I realized that they really don't intend for you to ever put the number "1" in that text box that it made sense as the prices make more sense when you specify multiple computers.

    As far as speed of initial upload goes, I was pretty much assuming it would take a month for this client's data, but I hadn't realized at the time she upgraded her Internet to a 25Mbps upload so her 700GB of data is only going to take a few days with the amount of BW I allocated to Crashplan. That's cool as hell.

  • ScanIAm

    @Craig_Matthews:My router keeps track of historical data volume in and out.  When I turned on the 'backup to the cloud' feature, I expected to hear from Comcast's bandwidth police after a few days of sending that much data.  The spike is still fun to look at.

    What is nice, though, is that once it all shows up, CP only does differentials and it can do them during your off hours.  If you don't throttle it and it kicks off during the day, though, you are going to be a sad surfer.

  • Craig_​Matthews

    Helps a ton that this client might change parts of only five to ten files a day too. The differentials will probably be a barely noticeable blip. It's great that nowadays a small business can insure the safety of their data at a level that was recently only affordable to bigger companies with IT departments.

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