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    cbae

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    Foxconn is a contract manufacturer for OEMs, many of whom that have signed patent licensing deals with Microsoft already. Is this like a catch-all deal for any OEM that hasn't already signed an agreement with Microsoft directly?

    In all honesty, this agreement is probably just a symbolic gesture since Microsoft pays Foxconn to produce Xbox and Surface hardware. This allows Foxconn to continue doing work for Microsoft and allows Microsoft to claim they receive royalties from a larger percentage of Android devices to infuriate Google even further.

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    wkempf

    Try harder to troll, please. Double dipping? Give me a break.

    "In situations where both the OEM and ODM has a deal with Microsoft, they'll work out between themselves who pays the license fee."

    And the conspiracy theory like spin that this must be a symbolic gesture is void of any thought. No matter how you spin this, Microsoft now gets paid royalties on Android devices Foxconn makes, while everything else about their relationship remains the same. Both parties have said money is flowing in one direction here... to Microsoft.

    A discussion about the patent situation and how the patent system is broken is something I could have gone with, but this post is pointless.

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    cbae

    @wkempf: Relax, dude. I tried to update my post with that exact quote about OEMs vs. ODMs after reading further, but I kept getting an error message. I gave up after 3 attempts.

    As for the money going in one direction, that's only the case with the licensing. In the assembly of Microsoft branded products, Microsoft is the customer. That money goes in the other direction.

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    fanbaby

     

    With the size and quality of its legal team, I'm sure Microsoft is acting according to the law.

    Soon Microsoft legal budget would eclipse its R&D.

    EDIT: I have yet to hear any developer working at Microsoft view on this. (on the other hand I can understand the silence, jobs on the line)

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    cbae

    , fanbaby wrote

     

    With the size and quality of its legal team, I'm sure Microsoft is acting according to the law.

    Soon Microsoft legal budget would eclipse its R&D.

    I'm sure the Microsoft legal department pays for itself.

    EDIT: I have yet to hear any developer working at Microsoft view on this. (on the other hand I can understand the silence, jobs on the line)

    Why would a Microsoft developer's view be any different from that of the company itself? Considering that its THEIR work product allegedly being infringed upon, I wouldn't think it would be any different at all. Microsoft doesn't have a bunch of freetards working for them, you know?

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    figuerres

    it's just accounting ... unless I missed something this remind me of how telephone companies settle bills ...  when you make a call say from a Verizon landline to say ... pacific bell  the two companies each record the call data.

    each billing cycle between them they work out who generated what traffic and depending on the agreement they cut a check to pay the bill.

    used to be that the one that started the call paid the one that took the call. they each would tally up the minutes and in some cases they might call it a wash - no amt due. but generally one side wuld own the other some amount.

    I can picture the accounting for MS and Fox do something like that to keep track and not cut checks when they can skip that.

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    cbae

    , figuerres wrote

    *snip*

    I can picture the accounting for MS and Fox do something like that to keep track and not cut checks when they can skip that.

    That's what I'm talkin' about, cuz. But from Google's perspective, Microsoft is making even more money from Android, and that's got enrage Google further and possibly cause them to make more stupid acquisitions like paying $12 billion for Motorola Mobility. This should put a smile on Ballmer's face and lessen the sting of the aQuantive purchase, the stupid acquisition Microsoft made to counter Google.

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