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Not the same as trading physical media. And as I said:
Something is seriously wrong when you're more of a corporate wh*re than an actual multi-billion dollar corporation:
Kick-* comments, guys.
NuMicrosoft delivered once again a huge whooping (maybe their biggest yet), and this sorry comments by the Defenders of the Redmond prove it even more.
Someone should link to this thread in a gaming forum.
I will recommend you all to read this
I don't want to get into which console is "better" since i think there's no way of objectivly determine that, however the negative buzz is really huge and Microsoft has a problem if they haven't anticipated this reaction. I might be that this negativity may even influence non-core gamers which would be even worse.
Well, I already know which console I'm going to buy: none of them. Doesn't matter what restrictions it does or does not have, all consoles suck.
@Sven Groot: Indeed.
This pissing match will soon settle down and each console will sell millions of units, and their respective manufacturers will salute each other from atop their mounds of cash while the great unwashed masses squabble over bullet points on datasheets far, far, far below.
Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm going to wait and see what games are on the consoles before deciding which console to get.
I don't want a PS4 if the games suck, no matter how much I can share them.
And I don't want an XBox One so I can watch TV. I already have a TV that lets me watch TV.
The point is that I personally don't give a flying * about restrictions on "borrowing" games, and if my kids complained about a purchase decision that I already made on behalf of the entire family, based solely on the ability to borrow games, I really would tell them to go do their homework and consider themselves lucky they get to play video games at all.
The average consumer doesn't want Windows 8 in general. That was a bad bet at this time.
This maybe the first time I've said this in years. Sony got it right here. Their pre-sales rally is showing it (since their announcement). The buzz on the internet and in the forums show it. Unless Microsoft has a change of tone, my bet is on PS4 in this round and that's a shame, because I liked the Xbox better in the past.
I've read all the arguments. If the Xbox fails, it will be because above the 4 above points and that Sony has chosen to fall out of rank and exploit them. Had Sony done the same as MS, everyone would have be ticked but not had a choice if you wanted to game or have an entertainment console (I'm excluding the WiiU because it's kind of a failure all on it's own, coming from someone who has owned every console Nintendo has put out). Instead, Sony exploited these weaknesses to their advantage (at least as of now). That's the free market. If all things stand like this, I predict Sony will win this round of the console wars.
I suppose the ball is now in Microsoft's court. I don't expect them to eat crow until they realize their losing money if and when that happens. We'll see how it plays out.
This is one a good point. One of the important variables that is still out.
Make no mistake: If the roles would be reversed, and Sony would be the one with the ridiculous DRM scheme, they wouldn't even dream making these comments.
ALL their recent products (apart from WP) create huge negative buzz, even though it could have been entirely avoided if the arrogance would be toned down and options would be offered again.
It's like an internal competition they have - which division is able to piss more people off. Looks like Xbox is winning.
I'm no expert in this area, but it seems to me that all the DRM stuff is things MS is doing because the games' publishers want them. If that is the case, it could end up that more publishers prefer the XBO which means MS might end up with more exclusive games.
Yes, I was going to mention something similar. I read that the publishers can decide if specific titles can be "borrowed" or can be played from "used" discs. So, just because the console CAN restrict play, it doesn't mean that it will be the case with all titles.
Publishers could also lower prices of titles on Xbox compared to those on PS since they'd presumably not lose revenue due to game sharing.
That's the selling point the publisher's need to make since they're the ones that wanted these restrictions.
Yet Sony [!] was able to resist them.
Interesting comment from Arstechnica:
There's been speculation and leaks from fairly reliable insiders / informants that Microsoft was really the initiator of the DRM scheme even if many publishers did support it. My personal guess is that they really wanted to push their "You don't need a disc" features, as well as to increase their licensing fees since those are often paid per copy of a game, but presumably used game sales eat into this.
Now of course that's a rumor. But fact is, Nintendo and Sony somehow were able to dodge the bullet.
It also just fits all to well into NuMicrosoft's Trifecta of Disgruntle that consists of bulldozering their existing customers into cloud schemes, annoy them unprecedentedly with lame changes that the existing customer bases oppose vehemently and the Sinofskytastic PR games.
Publishers have their share in this, but Microsoft isn't innocent. Especially if you take into account their run of the last 24 months.
I agree insofar as they seem to have serious management or marketing problem. No offense to anyone but the conference yesterday seemed strange like they weren't talking to the audience but to a fictional target-demograhpy that dosen't exist. Sony on the other hand talked to the audience which turned out to be a big plus.
Also come to think, If Microsoft has to put DRM mechanism into the xbox one I guess that publishers asked fot it, but then why wasen't sony forced to do the same Thing? It's just odd.
The publishers ask for features to be added to a platform. They can't force it. Microsoft listened. Sony didn't. It's up to the publishers to decide what title goes on what platform and when. Who knows? As Sven mentioned, maybe publishers will start producing more Xbox exclusives. Maybe they'll lower prices of titles on Xbox. As I said, it's up to the publishers.