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    cbae

    http://microsoft-news.com/windows-8-skus-revealed-3-new-skus-from-windows-7/

    Windows 8 will have more SKUs (Stock Keeping Units) than Windows 7. Thanks to people at  Windows 8 beta who  revealed the list of SKUs from registry entries of Windows 8.

    • Windows 8 Enterprise Edition
    • Windows 8 Enterprise Eval edition
    • Windows 8 Home Basic Edition
    • Windows 8 Home Premium edition
    • Windows 8 ARM edition
    • Windows 8 Professional edition
    • Windows 8 Professional Plus edition
    • Windows 8 Starter edition
    • Windows 8 Ultimate edition

    It's possible that those "Enterprise" additions will allow keeping the old Start Menu. This particular preview that was just released was, after all, called a "Consumer Preview". I think there's still hope for the traditional desktop UI in Windows 8.

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    davewill

    Very clever title!

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    wastingtime​withforums

    , cbae wrote

    Windows 8 will have more SKUs (Stock Keeping Units) than Windows 7


    Makes sense.

    http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Win8-Metro-Fake-Speed/018f22e72ced49cfbac7a00800fbd0ed

    Time to call the broker.

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    ManipUni

    I'll be interesting in if Ultimate has any real benefit this time, both in Vista and 7 it was a waste of money... 

    Also wonder what Professional "Plus" will be. Seems like an awkward additional release. 

    In general I think Windows XP got it most right with two consumers editions. One which was essentially designed for business users (without enterprise licenses) and geeks, and the other designed for your dad and girlfriend. 

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    cbae

    Yes, it might be a good time sell short since MSFT is currently trading at a 4-year high. There's nowhere to go but down now. Smiley

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    spivonious

    Wow, I hope this turns out to be wrong.

    They need

    • Windows 8 Home ($30 upgrade, $100 retail)
    • Windows 8 Professional/Enterprise ($50 upgrade, $150 retail)

    Anything more just confuses customers.

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    BitFlipper

    Ideally they should have one and only one baseline OS. After installation, you can then add any/all of the additional features you want for some cost for each. 

    Like this:

    1. Install baseline OS
    2. After install:
        [  ] Media Center          +$20
        [x] XP Mode                 +$15
        [  ] Domain Join            +$30
        [x] Backup to Network  +$20
        [x] BitLocker                 +$20
        ...etc

    Businesses can then create one image that contains all the features they need. Of course with volume licensing they won't pay per feature, but the installer will be customized to already include the features for that license and will not require any additional payment for each.

    The nice thing about such an approach is that you can add features at any time, so you don't end up with the situation where you found out later you now need a feature that isn't in the version you bought, and you'll need to do a full upgrade just to get it (and pay much more for feature you don't want).

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    DCMonkey

    I'm kinda curious what Windows 8 Starter would be like. No fancy window chrome? Limited number of apps open at once? 

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    wastingtime​withforums

    , BitFlipper wrote

    1. Install baseline OS
    2. After install:
        [  ] Media Center          +$20
        [x] XP Mode                 +$15
        [  ] Domain Join            +$30
        [x] Backup to Network  +$20
        [x] BitLocker                 +$20
        ...etc

    Horrible. Could only work if you cut your prices by 75%. At least with an SKU, you have the chance to get it for cheap (discounts, OEM etc.) and have all features.

    Domain Join for 30 bucks, .. funky.

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    BitFlipper

    @wastingtimewithforums:

    I just threw in random numbers for the prices because that isn't the point. The point is the concept I'm talking about.

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    wastingtime​withforums

    And how do you add features to a LAN with 10 computers? You know, too small for all sorts of MS special contracts, but big enough to make a hassle. But even with a special licensing contract..

    This will be fuuun. I can envision a new product line:

    Microsoft Product Features Authentication Server Small Business Edition 2015

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    PaoloM

    , DCMonkey wrote

    I'm kinda curious what Windows 8 Starter would be like. No fancy window chrome? Limited number of apps open at once? 

    I saw what you did there Smiley

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    bitdisaster

    What about just one free basic version of Windows and everything else in-OS purchases through the store. I know sounds crazy!

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    wastingtime​withforums

    , section31 wrote

    What about just one free basic version of Windows and everything else in-OS purchases through the store. I know sounds crazy!

    Please no.

    Given the sinofskytastic direction MS is on, this version would only come with a bootloader, which takes you straight to the appstore.

    "desktop app" and "launch other metro apps"-app would be purchasable extras of course.

    SKUs are the lesser evil.

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    Charles

    @wastingtimewithforums: Is this Beer28? Come on, man...

    C

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    wastingtime​withforums

    No, I am way better than that frigid, humourless Bob Dole clone.

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    BitFlipper

    , wastingtimewithforums wrote

    *snip*

    SKUs are the lesser evil.

    Maybe then that is the whole point of this discussion. Especially when you consider that in any particular market, you will only see a subset of the SKUs.

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    wastingtime​withforums

    SKUs are the lesser evil, but if there's quantillions of them it's still satanic.

    Something like "Professional Plus" is utterly ridiculous. Especially if they do again a stunt like in Vista, where the pricier version had not always all the features of the lesser versions.

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