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    wastingtime​withforums

    , Bas wrote

    You knew how everything worked

    And I also know how Win 8 works on the desktop: worse

    I get it why MS does this - brute forcing its PC position somehow to the tablet world. I just wish you guys would at least accept this reality and don't try to pretend with outlandish arguments that every desktop cripplement is somehow an improvement for lapdesktop users. It isn't.

    It's just a ploy to get more apps for Win 8 tablets.

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    PaoloM

    I am enjoying the nerd rage a lot lately... go on guys, keep pretending you're idiots just to score some... uhm... points?

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    cbae

    IIRC, the original Explorer tile from Developer and Consumer Previews opened up an Explorer window in the "Libraries" folder, which is useless to me anyway.

    While playing around with Win 8, I found that you can right-click on any folder, including network shares, and pin them to the Start Menu.

    In Windows 7, you can only "Create shortcut", which puts the shortcut on your desktop.

    If you wanted the equivalent of "Pin to Start Menu" in Windows 7, you'd have to:

    1. Right-click | Create shortcut
    2. Navigated to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs (assuming that you even have "Show hidden files, folders, and drives" enabled in your folder options, that is)
    3. Drag the shortcut created in step 1 into the Explorer window in step 2.

    Sorry, whiners, Windows 8 wins this one hands down. Smiley

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    cbae

    , wastingtimewithforums wrote

    *snip*

    And I also know how Win 8 works on the desktop: worse

    If you're whining about the removal of the stupid Explorer tile, you really don't know how Windows 8 works.

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    cbae

    , SimonJ wrote

    Also, right-click on any folder in Explorer and "Pin to Start".

    This is really an awesome feature. My Windows 7 desktop is cluttered with shortcuts to local and network folders that I need quick access to. When I have a bunch of windows open, it's a three step process to use those shortcuts:

    1. Drag obscuring window away
    2. Double-click shortcut
    3. Move window from Step 1 back to original position

    I never occurred to me what a rigmarole I went through to use those "quick access" shortcuts.

     

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , PaoloM wrote

    I am enjoying the nerd rage a lot lately... go on guys, keep pretending you're idiots just to score some... uhm... points?

    At least we're pretending...

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    DCMonkey

    , cbae wrote

    IIRC, the original Explorer tile from Developer and Consumer Previews opened up an Explorer window in the "Libraries" folder, which is useless to me anyway.

    While playing around with Win 8, I found that you can right-click on any folder, including network shares, and pin them to the Start Menu.

    In Windows 7, you can only "Create shortcut", which puts the shortcut on your desktop.

    If you wanted the equivalent of "Pin to Start Menu" in Windows 7, you'd have to:

    1. Right-click | Create shortcut
    2. Navigated to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs (assuming that you even have "Show hidden files, folders, and drives" enabled in your folder options, that is)
    3. Drag the shortcut created in step 1 into the Explorer window in step 2.

    Sorry, whiners, Windows 8 wins this one hands down. Smiley

    Windows 7:

    1. Drag and drop folder to start menu button or taskbar
    2. There is no two.
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    DCMonkey

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    DCMonkey

    @PaoloM:

    "When you see yourself doing something badly and nobody's bothering to tell you anymore, that's a very bad place to be. Your critics are your ones telling you they still love you and care."

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    cbae

    , DeathByVisualStudio wrote

    *snip*

    At least we're pretending...

    Stop pretending, and do a little "exploring". I think this loss of the default "Explorer" tile is so trivial, it's ludicrous to even complain about it. Having the ability to quickly pin shortcuts to whatever folder you want to the Start Menu more than makes up this insignificant "loss".

    For me, I can see this new full-screen Start Menu in Windows 8 becoming a hybrid between the Windows 7 start menu and the desktop.

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    cbae

    , DCMonkey wrote

    *snip*

    Windows 7:

    1. Drag and drop folder to start menu button or taskbar
    2. There is no two.

    Yeah, that's intuitive. Plus, if you accidentally release the mouse button before hitting the target, you end up moving the entire folder to the desktop or who knows where?

    Sorry, that's a loser feature.

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    DCMonkey

    , cbae wrote

    *snip*

    Yeah, that's intuitive. Sorry, that's a loser feature.

    But right click menus are OK. I see.

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    cbae

    , DCMonkey wrote

    *snip*

    But right click menus are OK. I see.

    Right-click has one function.  It brings up a context menu. Even idiots can be taught this.

    When you drag a folder, what exactly are you dragging? Are you dragging the folder itself or are you creating a shortcut of the thing that you're dragging and then copying that said shortcut to the thing that you drop the thing onto?

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    PaoloM

    , DCMonkey wrote

    @PaoloM:

    "When you see yourself doing something badly and nobody's bothering to tell you anymore, that's a very bad place to be. Your critics are your ones telling you they still love you and care."

    You are right. Hence, why Microsoft decided to move away from a filing business model for their ecosystem and move to a modern, sustainable and more forward looking one.

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    DCMonkey

    , cbae wrote

    *snip*

    Right-click has one function.  It brings up a context menu. Even idiots can be taught this.

    When you drag a folder, what exactly are you dragging? Are you dragging the folder itself or are you creating a shortcut of the thing that you're dragging and then copying that said shortcut to the thing that you drop the thing onto?

    Well, it has two now, depending on whether you're in Metro or on the desktop. And so now I'm wondering, was this right click in Windows Explorer or in one of those Metro File dialog/screen/pane/whatevers?

    Windows 8: Designed For Idiots. Wink

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , cbae wrote

    *snip*

    Right-click has one function.  It brings up a context menu. Even idiots can be taught this.

    You're right. Thanks for showing that this is true. Smiley

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , cbae wrote

    *snip*

    Sorry, that's a user feature.

    Fixed that for ya.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , cbae wrote

    *snip*

    For me, I can see this new full-screen Start Menu in Windows 8 becoming a hybrid between the Windows 7 start menu and the desktop.

    And I can see the start screen becoming one hot mess of tiles upon tiles upon tiles.

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