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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    Funny how the world comes full circle... I hope Microsoft learns from itself and its users too. (BTW, think ChromeOS is ridiculous for many reasons. Merge with Android, rinse, done.)

    But evidently Google wanted the Chrome OS to be more like Microsoft Windows and Apple'sMac OS X. That's smart, given how many people are familiar with those operating systems and how weird Chrome OS can feel when you first try it.

    Overall, the user interface is probably more familiar to average users, but I'm not a fan of the new window modes for the most part. I'm already a maximum-screen kind of guy for the most part, unless I'm using a really big monitor.

    So arguably, the rising star of full-screen apps means that Google is anchoring itself into the past with Chrome OS. Even though I'm a full-screen fan, though, it's probably smartest for Google to adapt to prevailing customs in this case.

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    GoddersUK

    I really hope full screen isn't the future. While I do live in full screen most of the time there are times when it's incredibly useful not to - for instance when I haven't got my second monitor plugged in, when I want to look at three windows, but only have two screens, when I want to give to windows equal importance (my laptop screen, ironically set in Windows as my primary monitor, essentially acts as a screen for things of secondary importance to whatever I'm doing on my external monitor).

    In fact I'd argue that for serious computing (i.e. work), where this type of windowed usage is most prevalent it's alive and very well. Development of features such as Aero Snap show that this is still recognised as an extremely valuable way of working.

    (IMHO the worst OS I've used, when it comes to window behaviour, is OSX - to this day I haven't been able to figure out how to maximise a Safari windows in OSX...) 

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    cbae

    @DeathByVisualStudio: ChromeOS is essentially Linux with Chrome browser for a shell. Chrome browser normally supports multiple windows and multiple tabs within each window like in that screenshot.

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    cbae

    , GoddersUK wrote

    *snip*

    (IMHO the worst OS I've used, when it comes to window behaviour, is OSX - to this day I haven't been able to figure out how to maximise a Safari windows in OSX...) 

    Other than the awkward placement of the command key for common hotkey functions, about the most irritating thing about OSX is that when you close a program window, you don't actually close the program. You have to close the program using the menu bar--even for a simple program like gedit or Terminal.

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    Bass

    @DeathByVisualStudio:

    This is a stupid cargo cult design that serves no purpose. Google could learn a lot from the tiling window managers on Linux. IMO, supporting the non-feature of arbitrary overlapping/floating windows is a regression in usability. Just cause everyone outside of Linuxland does it doesn't mean you need to adopt it for a next-gen OS.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    @Bass: But you could say the same cargo cult design is found in the "new" full screen approach Microsoft is taking with W8, you know "Walls Without Windows". I'm all for options. Let users decide how they want to interact with their data and apps. Let corporations keep costs down by not forcing design changes that do not benefit the desktop user from being forced upon their users.

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    kettch

    @DeathByVisualStudio: The kind of applications used in a corporate environment are not going to be metro apps, so I don't see the problem.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    @kettch: The start screen is metro. We've had this conversation before me thinks. You also have to toss in everything that Microsoft has moved over to metro (where there's no corresponding desktop UI) like adding Bluetooth devices, etc.

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    kettch

    @DeathByVisualStudio: I still contend that a full screen application launcher is a good thing for the average corporate user. If a program is not on their desktop it does not exist. Period. We have some XP machines left, and when you go to launch something from the Start menu, the all program's menu has atrophied down to nothing because the usage statistics say that the never go in there. Their desktop is always littered with shortcuts because the IT folks would rather do that than deal with trying to teach people how to click. Even then, they can only find things half the time.

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    GoddersUK

    @kettch: I cringe every time a see a desktop where more than 25% of the space is filled with icons/shortcuts/files. Instant Search in the start menu is far quicker than trying to locate a desktop icon.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , kettch wrote

    *snip*

    IT folks would rather do that than deal with trying to teach people how to click.

    Just as much as IT folks want to train all of these desktop users how to access the start screen, etc and all of the clutter that will build up there.

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