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    Ray7

    @harlock123: One more thing. If you are thinking about doing A LOT of writing then go into an Apple store and try one out for at least an hour and the do the same with a MacBook Air.

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    W3bbo

    I was going to get a MacBook Pro last year when my Tecra M4 died, but I didn't like the keyboards: there's no forward-delete key and the odd placemen of Ctrl/Alt/Cmd keys feels unnatural to me.

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    vesuvius

    Managed to find the time to pop into Edinburgh today, got the IPad 2 64GB, initial impressions are that I have a very big phone, will take a few days to get used to the Apple metaphors, I also don't think any amount of HTML 5 and JavaScript will create anything as eyecatching

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    cbae

    ,vesuvius wrote

    Managed to find the time to pop into Edinburgh today, got the IPad 2 64GB, initial impressions are that I have a very big phonethat can't make calls, will take a few days to get used to the Apple metaphors, I also don't think any amount of HTML 5 and JavaScript will create anything as eyecatching

    FIFY

    Edit: Oh, I forgot: "You have been assimilated."

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    Bass

    The Internet has taught me that Microsoft is the Borg. How can one be assimilated to a company as individualistic as Apple?

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    cbae

    ,Bass wrote

    Microsoft is the Borg. How can one be assimilated to a company as individualistic as Apple?

    Oh, please.

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    Bass

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    cbae

    "Different" became "Same" and then "Bandwagon" when Apple realized that one of their products actually exceeded 5% market share.

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    Bass

    How about this? This is certainly different.

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    Minh

    Can we just agree that multi-national companies are amoral?

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    W3bbo

    Apparently Apple has pushed back the iPad 3 to Q1 2012 because of disappointing yield rates on the 2048x1536 screens, which also require a better backlight.

    I did feel the 2011 release date was unrealistic anyway.

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    Ray7

    Since Apple hasn't announced the iPad 3, they haven't pushed back anything.

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    ScanIAm

    ,W3bbo wrote

    Apparently Apple has pushed back the iPad 3 to Q1 2012 because of disappointing yield rates on the 2048x1536 screens, which also require a better backlight.

    I did feel the 2011 release date was unrealistic anyway.

    I'm sure there was some 'good' reason why they had to exceed the 1920x1200 by such a weird margin. 

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    Sven Groot

    @ScanIAm: The iPad currently uses 1024x768, and 2048x1536 is exactly double the width and height of that, making it a lot easier to scale existing applications.

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    ScanIAm

    ,Sven Groot wrote

    @ScanIAm: The iPad currently uses 1024x768, and 2048x1536 is exactly double the width and height of that, making it a lot easier to scale existing applications.

    Well, there it is, the good(ish) reason.  That does seem to put it in the 4:3 ratio which seems odd given the 16:10 or 16:9 ratios used for widesceen.

     

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    Lee_Dale

    @Sven Groot:+ 1

    Get a kindle for reading books, and an iPad for magazines, simple as that.

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    harlock123

    @leeappdalecom:

    I have found the IPAD kindle app excellent for for most of my Technical manuals purchased. I love having all of them in my laptop case. I use the IPAD kindle app because of color, I know that the true kindle has extremely sharp text but the lack of color is just a tradeoff I am not willing to live with.

     

     

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    vesuvius

    After a few days playing I am hooked, it certainly is addictive (think some say addicting). It is a lovely device to use. Definitely need to ensure insurance is taken out assurance-wise as I fear one slip and bye-bye iPad.

    From a software position, I think it evident that

    1) Microsoft have all the tools they need to compete in the devices space - but have struggled to for a number of reasons

    2) Not enough emphasis has been given to good designers

    Windows works like is was designed by developers, and designers added afterwards, this software looks like it was designed first, then coded afterwards. I presume that this has changed with the new Windows Phone i.e. the metro design, and I think that that is why it has been so well received.

    In WPF and Silverlight their user experience team came up with some pretty attractive designs for Silverlight that were never ported to WPF.

    I realize that even Microsoft have to be Agile in delivery of products, but rather than rushing your developers from WPF to Windows, invest a little more time and let them perfect the UI components (especially speed and memory) rather than your Marketing team spending millions on advertising and marketing something that is not quite finished. This is my biggest gripe with Microsoft of late, in that they always look to their "third parties" to finish off everything, be that windows forms or WPF and even light switch. With Apple you get the felling that they gave you their product, when it was ready, with no expectation that others will chip in to create all the GUI components. I know flexibility is good, and if you release a new UI platform with guidance and components then people will almost always use them.

    Apple products sell themselves, just a touch in the shop and I was mesmerized. As a developer I know that WPF can create something as attractive, but you never seem to give that extra 10% polish when you are 90% into a project, that for me at least is why Apple are where they are, its all about attention to detail and presentation 100% of the time.

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