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Glad to see some official word on the Kinect SDK for Windows frm Microsoft

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    Dovella

    Now is OFFICIAL!!

     

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    magicalclick

    when will it be out?

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    Dovella

    Microsoft opens up Kinect SDK for personal use this Spring - commercial version later.

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    CKurt

    And I should take your word for it? Nice one!

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    blowdart

    http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/news/features/kinectforwindowssdk-022111.aspx

     

    While Microsoft plans to release a commercial version at a later date, this SDK will be a starter kit to make it simpler for the academic research and enthusiast communities to create rich natural user interfaces using Kinect technology. The SDK will give users access to deep Kinect system information such as audio, system application-programming interfaces, and direct control of the Kinect sensor.

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    Bass

    Pointless.

     

    The academic and enthusiast community already beat Microsoft via the open source and multi-platform libfreenect.

     

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    W3bbo

    , Bass wrote

    Pointless.

     

    The academic and enthusiast community already beat Microsoft via the open source and multi-platform libfreenect.

     

    Microsoft needs to do something first-party. Libfreenect is a mix of GPL and Apache, which Microsoft doesn't want to touch. Because it can't endorse it they have to do it themselves.

     

    If it's any consolation, it's probably 'better supported' and with much better documentation and cleaner APIs.

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    Bass

    Microsoft has contributed/released Apache licensed code before (even GPL code before).

     

    I don't think the API of libfreenect is all that complicated. It has wrappers to a bunch of different languages (including C#), I doubt Microsoft will support Java or Python while libfreenect does.

     

    If Microsoft likes it or not, a lot of hackers and academics use Linux for their research. And you know Microsoft would never support Linux for anything interesting, so there will always be a niche for libfreenect no matter how "great" Microsoft's own API will be.

     

    I should say, the way the write this, it sounds like they are only releasing a driver for Kinect. _IF_ they release the computer vision middleware as well then it's a whole different story.

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    magicalclick

    I wonder why they release commercial version later? I thought XNA already offered commercial grade access and just port it to PC? Unless they are actually trying to expose even more features than that XNA has to offer?

     

    And I wonder if the non-commercial version is more like beta of commercial release.

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    Escamillo

    , Bass wrote

    Microsoft has contributed/released Apache licensed code before (even GPL code before).

     

    I don't think the API of libfreenect is all that complicated. It has wrappers to a bunch of different languages (including C#), I doubt Microsoft will support Java or Python while libfreenect does.

     

    If Microsoft likes it or not, a lot of hackers and academics use Linux for their research. And you know Microsoft would never support Linux for anything interesting, so there will always be a niche for libfreenect no matter how "great" Microsoft's own API will be.

     

    I should say, the way the write this, it sounds like they are only releasing a driver for Kinect. _IF_ they release the computer vision middleware as well then it's a whole different story.

     

    You say that this is pointless, then ramble on about Linux.  Well, "whether you like it or not", there are lots of researchers and hobbyists that don't use Linux.  I'm a hobbyist myself, and don't touch Linux and want nothing to do with Linux, and this Windows Kinect SDK would be great for me, so it's cearly not "pointless".  Linux geeks think that they are the center of the universe and everything is about them.  Well, not everything is about them, and whenever a software kit is released it should not be dismissed as "pointless" just because that kit doesn't cater to the Linux crowd. 

     

     

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    Bass

    @Escamillo:

     

    libfreenect works on Windows. Those Windows using Kinect researchers and hobbyists have been using libfreenect all along. Amazing right?

     

    I am both a hobbyist and a professional, and a person who tends to love the computer industry and technology in general.

     

    I use both Linux and Windows and understand their strengths and weaknesses. Basically, I don't have some kind of emotional aversion to any technology that may be useful to me. I think people who do tend to be ignorant fools.

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    AndyC

    , Bass wrote

    @Escamillo:

     

    libfreenect works on Windows. Those Windows using Kinect researchers and hobbyists have been using libfreenect all along. Amazing right?

     

    The problem with open source solutions is that it's all too common that they are abandoned and that becomes problematic. The same is usually less true of first party software, unless the hardware itself becomes obsolete.

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    Bass

    , AndyC wrote

    *snip*

     

    The problem with open source solutions is that it's all too common that they are abandoned and that becomes problematic. The same is usually less true of first party software, unless the hardware itself becomes obsolete.

     

    Really I think this a myth. In proprietary software companies people also lose interest and office politics can completely destroy products.


    I would argue that it's even less likely in open source. There are products that are way past their shelf life and yet are actively maintained because there are people who still are interested in it.

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