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Google wins 80% over Microsoft in office!

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    PaoloM
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    MasterPi

    Sounds like they hate their employees. Devil

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    kettch

    They probably migrated from Office 97 and provided actual training on how to get the most out of the new product as opposed to a lot of organizations that just assume people know Office.

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    Bass

    Such a strong outpouring of grassroots disgust! Why, look at all those people using Microsoft's anti-Google marketing term "scroogled" and linking to articles on Microsoft's Office marketing website "whymicrosoft.com".

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    cbae

    Hi all

    Thanks for the comments - interesting to hear. I have contacted both Pearson and Google for comment and will hope to do a follow up.

    If anyone wants to email me (in confidence) to talk more about the issues that have occurred since the move, please do:

    dan.worth[at]incisivemedia[dotcom].

    Would be interested to know more.

    Thanks

    Dan

    How much confidence can we have in a reporter who knowingly or (even worse) unknowingly allowed a source to so blatantly lie to them?

    You are the type of reporter who will soon be replaced by an automated reporting service. Absolutely nothing of value in your work. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    LOL

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    PaoloM

    , Bass wrote

    Such a strong outpouring of grassroots disgust! Why, look at all those people using Microsoft's anti-Google marketing term "scroogled" and linking to articles on Microsoft's Office marketing website "whymicrosoft.com".

    Aww... hurting much? Smiley

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    Bass

    , PaoloM wrote

    *snip*

    Aww... hurting much? Smiley

    A little this morning, but nothing that a Sudafed can't cure.

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    Craig_​Matthews

    , kettch wrote

    They probably migrated from Office 97 and provided actual training on how to get the most out of the new product as opposed to a lot of organizations that just assume people know Office.

    A lot of organizations assume people know Office because every single person on Earth puts it on their resume whether they know it or not.

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    kettch

    @Craig_Matthews: I generally assume that if somebody feels the need to put Office on their resume, then they don't really know it that well.

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    cheong

    @kettch:Well, I can understand when a MOS put Office on their resume. Tongue Out

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    DaveWill2

    Whoa. Sounds like Milton got the red Swingline taken away. I guess there will be a fax machine beat-down next.

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    Bas

    I love how the obvious Microsoft shills in the comments section get called out, but let's just ignore the embarassingly obvious "80% of managers employees choose the cheapest solution Google because it's great! They especially love [product we they are currently marketing heavily] because of [see product marketing brief] and are already totally commited to it even though we they released it only two weeks ago, but that's how things work in the publishing world which is well known for its rapid adoption of new technologies anyway." press release.

    That aside, the exchange cbae quoted was hilarious. I can't wait for today's tech journalism to die a quick death.

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    GoddersUK

    @kettch: Really? I tend to assume it's a formality that you have to have on there. Like your name and address.

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    PopeDai

    , Craig_​Matthews wrote

    *snip*

    A lot of organizations assume people know Office because every single person on Earth puts it on their resume whether they know it or not.

    I blame the school system. During careers advice classes we were told to put our A-Level and GCSE results (listing individual subjects) on our CVs, and all manner of skills that employers look for, including Microsoft Office (fun-fact: my secondary-school was using Office 97 on Windows XP machines right-through 2004). They never covered CVs and resumes when I was at uni - but I reasoned that none my potential future employers would care that I got a 'C' grade in Year 11 RS or a 'B' grade in Geography, nor do I imagine they care about my 100% score on Year 12 General Studies exam - later when it came to writing my CV for the first time I kept it devoid of needless details that my high-school teachers told me to include and the next thing I knew I was receiving job offers from Microsoft, Amazon, and sexy start-ups around the world (which is how I ended up here).

    I know a great way to know when someone is fibbing about their "Microsoft Office" skill-set: ask them to explain how Styles work in Word. If they're the kind of person who thinks you make a heading by selecting text and then clicking the B button for Bold, and *horror* even Underline it, then you've got a candidate for /dev/null, but even those that know to click where it says "Heading" or "Title" still don't understand how Styles work and frequently resort to manual formatting. It is not fun to clean-up their documents: the Format Painter and Clear Format buttons will not help you: it's time to copy and paste into Notepad to get something usable from their documents.

    The world would be a much better place if Word died and instead we released a first-class LaTeX typesetting product, that forced users to watch a 3-minute training video on how to use the dang thing.

    Also: bring back the old Equation editor! I have arrow-keys, let me use them!

    ...apologies for the rant, it's 5AM.

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    ScanIAm

    , kettch wrote

    @Craig_Matthews: I generally assume that if somebody feels the need to put Office on their resume, then they don't really know it that well.

    I put office on my resume when describing my extensively unparalleled awesomeness in VSTO...

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    kettch

    @ScanIAm: Funny enough, there's a few applications of which I know more about the data and API's than I do about day to day use.

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    Sven Groot

    , PopeDai wrote

    The world would be a much better place if Word died and instead we released a first-class LaTeX typesetting product, that forced users to watch a 3-minute training video on how to use the dang thing.

    As someone who has written several papers and an entire Ph.D. thesis in LaTeX: no, it really, really wouldn't.

    Also: bring back the old Equation editor! I have arrow-keys, let me use them!

    Are you insane? The new equation editor is way better than the old one. The inline entry mode (sadly very poorly documented) alone is worth it.

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    spivonious

    Nice quote here

    I don't think anyone thinks Google is ideal, just that the decision makers in most departments thought is was 'good enough', at a huge cost-savings.

    This would mirror my feelings as well. Most Office users only use 5% of the functionality. Google products would be fine for them. It seems like the real Office power users are the ones who are upset with the choice.

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