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Has there been a negative video about MS on C9?

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    Minh

    I don't recall ever seeing one. Is C9 all sunshine all the time?

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    magicalclick
    Leaving WM on 5/2018 if no apps, no dedicated billboards where I drive, no Store name.
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    Maddus Mattus

    Channel9 is about technology (mostly Microsoft's), so how can any video be negative?

    And what's more, what is the point?

    What is your point? Smiley

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    androidi

    Leave it to company like Microchip to turn a really negative "retarded product" video rant into more funny and positive note. I don't think MS could manage that even if they wanted.

    http://www.eevblog.com/2009/10/21/eevblog-39-pickit-3-programmerdebugger-review/

    "Since this blog has gone to air and made it’s way all around the Microchip HQ, I have received a phone call from none other than the Microchip CEO Steve Sanghi. In a totally unexpected and rare show of honesty from any corporate person, let alone the CEO, he thanked me for the blog and for raising the issues. Check out their video response below!"

     

    Ok that wasn't directly comparable to what's discussed here but if you watch the video response video, it's has self-critical tones which is probably the closest thing to negative one could in some special occassion expect.

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    CKurt

    It does not need to be negative. If the reposter asks the right critical questions it's a great video. And there have been video's where critical questions have been addressed.

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    SteveRichter

    ,Maddus Mattus wrote

    Channel9 is about technology (mostly Microsoft's), so how can any video be negative?

    And what's more, what is the point?

     

    What about a video explaining why windows mobile was a flop? And what that portends for WP7?

     

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    Minh

    @SteveRichter: Exactly! I would love to be a fly on the wall in that meeting where they decided to can the Kin.

    I want C9 to send out a team of investigative geek reporters, sit down with the executives. Bonus points if the executive cry.

    They say C9 is a window into MS, but I guess the only windows you're allowed to peer into are the pastel painted ones with trimmed flower pots, and butterflies fluttering about.

    I like to peep into the bathroom windows, too

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    Bas

    @SteveRichter: how was Windows Mobile a flop? It certainly wasn't a flop commercially.

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    Minh

    ,CKurt wrote

    It does not need to be negative. If the reposter asks the right critical questions it's a great video. And there have been video's where critical questions have been addressed.

    And we used to get those when Scoble was here... not so much anymore... The message has been sanitized these days I think

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    vesuvius

    @Minh:We were all warned about you Tongue Out

    Seriously, is there a company the size of Microsoft that does not have a level of control over media? Microsoft has an army of solicitors (lawyers) whose sole purpose is to abnegate such occurences, consequently any instances of such "airing your dirty linen in public" would lead to persons getting the sack, either the staff for leaking, or the solicitors trusted with signing off their media. It is a very healthy relationship - based on mutual understanding.

    You are right that it takes the fun out of a lot of things

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    Minh

    We were all warned about you Tongue Out

    Metaphorically speaking of course Smiley

    I guess you can draw the line at legal matters, or giving away business secrets... but take the story where MS is transfering 30 millions users to WordPress... Why was that done?

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    SteveRichter

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    @SteveRichter: how was Windows Mobile a flop? It certainly wasn't a flop commercially.

    I don't know enough about it. As I understand, windows mobile is being withdrawn?  Can we say the average handheld phone sold today has more computing power than the first PC?  Yet you cannot run a Microsoft OS on many of these phones?  If a phone runs android, could I, should I be able to load windows mobile?  

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    SteveRichter

    ,Minh wrote

     

    And we used to get those when Scoble was here... not so much anymore... The message has been sanitized these days I think

     

     

    I liked that guy who would not shake hands because of some germ thing.  He was technical and was willing to ask probing questions.

     

     

     

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    PaoloM

    ,SteveRichter wrote

    ,Bas wrote

    @SteveRichter: how was Windows Mobile a flop? It certainly wasn't a flop commercially.

    I don't know enough about it. As I understand, windows mobile is being withdrawn?  Can we say the average handheld phone sold today has more computing power than the first PC?  Yet you cannot run a Microsoft OS on many of these phones?  If a phone runs android, could I, should I be able to load windows mobile?  

    Well, if you don't know enough about it, how can you tell it was a flop?

    And since when you have been able to run different OSs on mobile phones? (except for acts of extreme hacking, that count for what amounts to statistical noise)

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    SteveRichter

    ,PaoloM wrote

    Well, if you don't know enough about it, how can you tell it was a flop?

    And since when you have been able to run different OSs on mobile phones? (except for acts of extreme hacking, that count for what amounts to statistical noise)

    If a phone runs android, does that mean it is open to pretty much any OS being loaded on it? That is one of my assumptions.  Why discontinue windows mobile as a competitor to android?


    Regarding my lack of knowledge about windows mobile, I get all my tech info from C9 and MSDN <g>. I have a windows mobile phone. Can it connect to a wireless router as an IP device on a LAN? That would be neat if I could network to my phone from my PC, send code to it that I wrote using visual studio, exchange data between the devices.

     

     

     

     

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    eddwo

    Well this one was kind of a downer

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    Bass

    Are you claiming Microsoft is less then perfect?

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    magicalclick

    @SteveRichter:

    It has been said many times in the videos, press, blogs. "Windows Phone 7 does not have customizable GUI because they want consistant user experience". Meaning, WinMo failed because it didn't have consistant user experience.

     

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