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    vesuvius

    I have an intranet site built with Sitefinity by Telerik that works great, but users are finding editing and creating HTML documents difficult using the RadEditor for HTML.

    Any niners here use Teleriks web controls, and can you suggest any way I can get users to like the system?

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    Maddus Mattus

    No sorry mate,..

    I tend to steer clear on these types of controls or frameworks, they always gave me a headache.

    And how do you get to users to like the system? Implement an even worse one?

    What are they used to? Why can't they use that and paste the HTML in?

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    vesuvius

    Unfortunately I have inherited this, so I have to try an limit the damage. It would have been better to use TinyMCE, that is what is used in WordPress and Channel 9, but Sitefinity does come with a tonne of stuff that would take months or even years to duplicate

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    JohnAskew

    @vesuvius: I can imagine that some events are causing problems with that embedded editor, what are the user's complaints sounding like?

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    Harlequin

    SharePoint 365 won't do?

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    JohnAskew

    , Harlequin wrote

    SharePoint 365 won't do?

    It's a babysitting project, not a do-over... I'm still thinking that the control is running through events that should be silent or something like that causing a disruptive UI experience.

    What are users saying about it?

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    vesuvius

    @JohnAskew: Editing content is the issue, where in MS Word you can jiggle things about, drag images and position them pixel perfectly, having to use HTML is the biggest complaint.

    There is a section that allows users to enter summaries that has to be hand coded HTML in order to add images. I just wonder how people deal with users that are using a CMS for the first time?

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    JeremyJ

    @vesuvius: Would you be able to swap out the control with something else?

    Something like this perhaps?

    http://www.asp.net/ajaxLibrary/AjaxControlToolkitSampleSite/HTMLEditor/HTMLEditor.aspx

     

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    elmer

    I have done quite a number of sites using Sitefinity.

    The RadEditor is actually one of the best of its breed, and I much prefer it to TinyMCE.

    http://demos.telerik.com/aspnet-ajax/editor/examples/overview/defaultcs.aspx

    However, in my experience, very few CMS admins have the ability to be creating HTML content for pages, and so it's really not the right tool for "users" who can't happily switch to html mode for making minor adjustments.

    Personally, I normally implement "widgets" (either Composite or User Controls for the Sitefinity environment) that do all of the "thinking" for the content admins, and manage the html, styling, etc for them. They then just drag the required widgets onto the page, select configuration options, point & click to insert images, links, etc, and enter any minimally formatted text content.

    This is how Sitefinity is really designed to be implemented - with the generic-content control (RadEditor) being the fall-back point when something more specialized isn't available or appropriate.

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    vesuvius

    @elmer: Thanks a lot for that

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