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    Bass

    I just want want to put it out there that Internet Explorer 8 managed to make one of my co-workers turn into a violent Microsoft hater in the course of a single day. I do also think it is in Microsoft's best interest to force as many people as possible to updated browsers.

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    Geoffreyk

    , Bass wrote

    I just want want to put it out there that Internet Explorer 8 managed to make one of my co-workers turn into a violent Microsoft hater in the course of a single day. I do also think it is in Microsoft's best interest to force as many people as possible to updated browsers.

    Curious. What exactly in IE 8 drove them nuts?

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    magicalclick

    @Bass:

    This just show you how IE will fall. When is the IE8 must die movement from Microsoft? I suppose they can reuse the domain name that advocate to kill IE6.

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    Bass

    @Geoffreyk:

    CSS problems.

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    magicalclick

    @Bass:

    The only CSS I would care is,

    Box-sizing: border-box;

    Without it, crappy browsers are using whacky useless pre-box-sizing standard. Only after box-sizing, the responsive design become possible, otherwise layout are all statically assigned due to useless padding calculation.

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    elmer

    @magicalclick:

    I thought the css standard was content-box.

    border-box is IE quirks mode, isn't it ?

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    Geoffreyk

    box-sizing is supported by ie8.

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    magicalclick

    @elmer:

    yeah, and because the old HTML cannot do border-box, all the websites that follow that crippled standard is doing whacky layout and claim that's the standard way.

    If you are running an older site, they wouldn't use border-box and claim IE is f-up. So, it looks whacky on IE, especially 3 versions of IE6,7,8 have subtle differences (IE6 only border-box, IE7 only content-box, IE8 does both and default content-box). Crappy site wouldn't adjust to this and appear whacky.

    If you want modern percentage based layout, you have to use padding that doesn't screw up the percentage. But, that's only for modern sites where they are aware of border-box. Older sites are pretty much screwed, especially many devs don't know the subtle IE difference nor care to fix the site.

     

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