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IE10 will run on Vista, right?

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    wastingtime​withforums

    Reading the comments here:

    http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2011/04/12/native-html5-first-ie10-platform-preview-available-for-download.aspx

    It seems there is a feeling that Internet Explorer 10 will be Windows 7 (and 8) only. No Vista release. I guess the feeling comes from the fact that the blog post only mentions Windows 7.

    I don't have a Vista machine, is anyone with Vista here who can test whether the preview works on Vista?

    Yea, Vista is not exactly the the darling of the IT world, but if MS cuts Vista support with IE10, it will seriously tarnish the IE and Windows brand. Vista is still a pretty newish release (in Windows terms) and offers together with the Plattform Update pretty much the same APIs as Win7.

    Killing of XP support in IE9 was understandable, this is not.

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    aL_

    seems very strange that it would not run on vista.. dx10/11 is available (via vista sp2) so i dont see why they would not support it

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    felix9

    These pages said the Platform Preview needs 7, no Vista.

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=e0bba7f3-35e0-4ab9-be48-4867be06d443
    http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/info/releasenotes/

    but there is still hope, since its just a preview, maybe it relies on some updates for Vista which is not released yet . so the situation may change for the final product, which will be released with Win8 I guess.

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    DCMonkey

    FWIW, Vista SP2 Mainstream support ends around this time next year. It's getting ooollld.

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    wastingtime​withforums

    They really need to clear up this issue fast.

    Killing the support for Vista completely is FAR too early. Terrible marketing catastrophy right there. The impression is "pay 200 dollars for a new browser". The other browser makers will be all over it. And if MS seriously won't support Vista with IE10, then those other browser developers will have a very good point.

    I am still using IE, but I won't if the system requirements for the IE10 final will be the same as for the preview. Dropping Vista support while all other vendors still support XP and even Win2000 in some cases (Firefox) is a terrible product strategy.

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    magicalclick

    I actually think it will work on Vista because there is no reason not to. The XP drop is a way to push people switching, not because it can not really run it. Or maybe because XP doesn't have D2D? anyway, there is no reason to encourage Vista people to upgrade as they are small number and Vista has D2D. And the application practically runs on both OS without anything to be modified, so, I don't see why not.

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    Cream​Filling512

    The platform previews don't install on Server 2008 R2 either.  Probably they don't want to take on the cost of testing these dev-focused interim builds on multiple platforms.  I wouldn't be surprised if you could massage it into installing on Vista anyway.

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    dahat

    @CreamFilling512:Well said. It's far too early to know on what versions of Windows IE10 will ship on. Only time and feedback will tell.

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    C9Matt

    @wastingtimewithforums: What? Vista was released in 2007 - so when they release IE10 in 2012 it'll be five years old. Microsoft will probably release Win8 at the same time, so it'll be not only the "not-newest" one, it'll be the "one that's older than the not newest one".

    People get stupidly attached to old software and old OSes, but frankly, telling someone that you're not going to get the best hardware performance and security features on a kernel that was built before that hardware or security feature was invented isn't rocket surgery people.

    Some people here are mentioning that other browsers still support old versions of Windows, but did you know for instance that Google Chrome software renders everything in XP because XP can't handle hardware rendering, and Firefox and Google Chrome both have to disable the sandbox on XP because there's no such thing as Low Integrity Mode?

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    wastingtime​withforums

    @C9Matt:

    Boho, 2007! That's almost yesterday. You're aware how slow corps are with migrations? Longevity is one of the key features of the Windows ecosystem.


    a kernel that was built before that hardware or security feature was invented isn't rocket surgery people

    Vista provides (together with the Plattform Update) pretty much all the APIs Windows 7 provides. Let's be frank here, the Vista and Win7 kernels aren't much different.

    when they release IE10 in 2012 it'll be five years old

    And five years is too early to abandon a Windows version completely.

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    Minh

    @wastingtimewithforums, corporates did NOT buy Vista.

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    spivonious

    , wastingtime​withforums wrote

    The impression is "pay 200 dollars for a new browser".

    Do you really think people are always running the latest version of a web browser? Look at how many IE6 installs are still out there. That came out in 2001. The average consumer buys a new PC when they want an OS upgrade. Otherwise they leave things alone. The population that stays on the bleeding edge of web browsers is a very small percentage of total users.

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    Harlequin

    "but if MS cuts Vista support with IE10, it will seriously tarnish the IE and Windows brand"

    I lol'd...

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    figuerres

    Just remember folks that the time span of XP was *NOT* normal....

    look back at the pace of updates from say Win 95 to XP

    then at the history of what happened when Vista started and they went back to XP to do the big SP / security fix thing and  how that made Vista take even longer to ship.

    now with WIn 7 we are "back on track" so to speak and new stuff should come out faster than the XP-to-Vista time spans.

    in much the same way they let IE6 sit for way to long and are now almost where they should be with the browser code and function....

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    Ivan006

    That's not fair if it doesn't work on Vista.  Not all of us have the coin to upgrade to Win7.  I'm going to try it on my Vista laptop and see what happens.  I figure if IE9 works on Vista, IE10 should too.

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    DCMonkey

    Confirmed by a MS spokesperson that IE10 will be Windows 7+ only:

    http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9215791/Windows_Vista_No_IE10_for_you

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    Cream​Filling512

    @DCMonkey:

    This is pretty bold, it has to have something to show for it.  If it just has parity with rival cross-platform browsers, that's not going to cut it.  It needs to be balls-to-the-walls awesome.

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    C9Matt

    @CreamFilling512: Actually because Microsoft can push IE to everyone with windows via Windows Update, they only need to not be worse than everyone else. When you go any buy yourself a Windows 8 computer it'll have IE and it won't have Firefox, so you'll need to conciously move to a different browser, and if Firefox isn't better than IE you probably won't bother. In order to get customers to switch, Firefox needs to be better than IE, not the other way around (I'm not saying that's good, just how it is).

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