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IE10/IE10 Metro

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  • Bass

    Looks like we will be "jailbreaking" desktop OSes as well.

  • Harlequin

    ,AndyC wrote

    *snip*

    Go listen to the keynote again. The only way to install Metro apps is going to be via Windows App Store.

    The sentence said "Windows applications", not "Metro Applications"...two different things. Metro Apps I can see being via the App Store only for sure.

  • fanbaby

    ,AndyC wrote

    *snip*

    Here's a little food for thought:

    Future Windows applications will only be available via the Windows App Store, which will only be accessible on Windows. So the end of things like Silverlight and Win32, which had some degree of cross platform compatability via Moonlight and Wine will lead to a greater desire for Windows on the desktop.

    Long live Linux?

    Microsoft is so averse to opensource (ASP.NET and the like not withstanding as they don't threaten the vendor lock-in) that it wont even indulge its devout fans by opensourcing obsolete things like DOS and VB6 of yesterday, or Silverlight and Win32 of tomorrow (Win32 according to you). With such an abusive relationship why do you guys stay???

  • jamie

    well that explains my flash works in desktop IE only

     

    since when are MS steve jobs limiting what can run.

    I could give a sh__ about html 5 when BARBIE.com cant run in the cool IE  Tongue Out

  • AndyC

    @Harlequin:Well yes, I meant Windows applications in the (hypothetical) scenario that Metro succeeds and the older Win32/.NET/Silverlight apps fade into obscurity. It's not going to happen overnight, but in the longer term I suspect it just might.

    And the same is equally true if Metro and Windows fails completely and everyone moves over to Apple and iOS.

  • kettch

    @fanbaby:WTH is the reason to open source those products? Nobody would care. Most companies who open source their products these days seem to do it because they aren't making money with them any more, not out of any kind of altruism.

  • fanbaby

    kettch, I couldn't care less about these, I was only talking about poor MS patners, say someone with a large VB6 app, or someone invested heavily in Silverlight (R.I.P)

  • kettch

    @fanbaby: Open sourcing those won't do anybody any good, and Silverlight is not dead.

    If anything, HTML5 and JavaScript are dead. Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish...muahahahahaha

  • Harlequin

    How would open-sourcing Silverlight help anyone? Is it not extensible enough that you can build anything on top of it?

  • wsdotnet

    this all is just crazy. WINDOWS 8 ( WINDOWS VISTA 2) STEVE S. AND STEVE B. SHOULD START LOOKING FOR ANOTHER JOB SOON.

  • kettch

    @wsdotnet: Why?

  • fanbaby

    ,Harlequin wrote

    How would open-sourcing Silverlight help anyone? Is it not extensible enough that you can build anything on top of it?

    Yes, that's right of course, I meant Microsoft declaring they have absolutely no intent to sue anyone over dotnet patents.

    EDIT: Google will be using dotnet the next day.

  • fanbaby

    ,kettch wrote

    @fanbaby: Open sourcing those won't do anybody any good, and Silverlight is not dead.

    If anything, HTML5 and JavaScript are dead. Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish...muahahahahaha

    The '90s and '00s called, said they are dead.

  • Bass

    @Harlequin:

    It would make it possible to port Silverlight to other platforms more easily. It would surely benefit Silverlight developers and users.

  • bugme

    I wonder whether IE 10 and IE 10 metro are different executables.

  • evildictait​or

    , bugme wrote

    I wonder whether IE 10 and IE 10 metro are different executables.

    What makes you think that IE10 is an executable? All of the core functionality is in DLLs - that's why iexplore.exe is only 700kb.

  • evildictait​or

    Yes, that's right of course, I meant Microsoft declaring they have absolutely no intent to sue anyone over dotnet patents.

    Microsoft did that when they made the CLI and C# an ECMA standard.

  • fanbaby

    19 hours ago, evildictaitor wrote

    *snip*

    Microsoft did that when they made the CLI and C# an ECMA standard.

    Fair enough, but how then do you explain the fact that c# has niegh 0 takers outside Microsoft (the mono project and its few users excluded). If what you believe is true, how come Google, Yahoo, ebay, Facebook, and 99% of the top 100 sites shun it completely?

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