42 minutes ago, Maddus Mattus wrote
@evildictaitor: And they might not be better off, but at least they are FREE.
Nope. I'm free to have holidays abroad or to buy expensive cars - which most people in entire continents like Africa and South America can't (because of poverty). I'm free to watch high quality television without needing to watch fourty minutes of adverts an hour (my US collegaues are deeply jealous).
I'm free do business with whomever and whenever I want (unlike in Russia and China), And I'm free to express my displeasure at the government both privately and publically through the press (unlike those in many countries like Iran).
I'm free to become senior in business without needing to join "the party" like in China, and I can stand to become Prime Minister in this country without needing spend my entire time in office going from fund-raiser to fund-raiser like they do in the US.
I'm free to get legal attention if I'm assaulted, my property is taken or if I am abused, which beats almost any previous era in history, and if I were black or female or jewish or disabled, I would be free to work in Industry at the same terms as the rest of the workforce - and be protected by law from any discriminatory employer.
And when it comes to business, we have a higher share of India's foreign market than America, we deal better with China, we used to own Iran, Iraq and most of the middle east. We speak English which gives us a native advantage in Africa and in North America, we have the EU by the balls over our rebate and routinely make ourselves unpopular there by forcing a British agenda, and we can veto practically anything at the UN.
I'm free from fear of attack by terrorists (unlike most of the middle-east and Israel), the secret police (like China and Russia) and by other states (like Gaza, Syria, Turkey and large parts of Africa).
And for all of this - just 45% of my gross income? A deal-and-a-half I'll say. I don't need to present my daughter to the local lord for marriage like in the "good old days" and I don't need to spend 80% of my income on my rent to an abusive landlord.
In fact, I would contest that the UK right now is freer than any other place in any other country in history.
My wife suffured an injury and I want to take time off to care for her. My free days are all spent, since it is not allowed to transfer them to next year, so I asked my employer if it is OK that I take some unpaid leave.
Problem with that is, that I have no income for a month. The money is not an issue, since I prepare myself for these types of things. But the myriad of taxes, government insurances, tax rebate and tax cut programs making it very difficult for me to take a month off.
BS. The reason you can't get a month off is because of your capitalist employer not wanting to pay you to not work. The government doesn't even come into the equation.
Also our fantastic government healthcare system is failing to provide care for my wife. So now I have to fallback on local members of my community (hi mom and dad!) for help.
It's still a whole lot better than if you were poor and the hospital said they weren't even going to admit her until you stump up $50,000.
So again, why in the blazing hell I'm I paying so much (under the threat of force) to somebody who refuses to help me and even when they help me, they do a piss poor job?
But you do not live in North Korea. You are free to leave at any time. Renounce your citizenship and move to Somalia. There you'll find that your wife gets top-notch treatment for any ailment, but you'll have to fly her at your own expense to a private clinic in Switzerland to even see a basic dentist.
The Netherlands don't have you under house arrest, and you are free to leave if you don't like it there. If you do like it, it must be worth all them taxes you're paying.
You keep talking about how consumers can always vote with their feet and how choice is the thing Maddus. And yet here you are - faced with a choice of Somalia or the Netherlands and the opportunity to vote with your feet and your wallet (by leaving and renouncing your citizenship).
And yet here we are, Maddus. Here we are.