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Is Windows Phone dead?

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    wastingtime​withforums

    Looks like Win8 will run on the same hardware and the Metro interface is ideal for phones and tablets.

    So what's the point in developing two systems that do the same?

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    aL3891

    most likely they wont, rumor is that win phone 8 will actually be windows 8, at least at the kernel level..

    we'll see i guess. ballmer did say that phone7 apps will continue to work on future phone versions as well

    nothing is dead. but i do believe winRT is the future for winphone

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    vesuvius

    The curse of the dodo bird rears its ugly head

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    magicalclick

    @wastingtimewithforums:

    Win8 runs on a much faster, bigger battery, bigger ram systems. WinPh still have much less hardware to work with. While they are both Metro, WinPh7 utilize screens very differently. I don't consider them the same. Also WinPh has restrictive security model that doesn't need anti-virus. Win8's model is too flexible for normal administrators to install virus. That sets apart Computer and Phone.

    Leaving WM on 5/2018 if no apps, no dedicated billboards where I drive, no Store name.
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    lensman

    Was it ever alive?  Since windows mobile 4.5, I have not seen the use of it.

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    Minh

    ,wastingtime​withforums wrote

    So what's the point in developing two systems that do the same?

    I don't understand the question. So... do you think a phone and a tablet does the same thing?

    Or do you think Win8 run equally well on a phone AND a tablet ?

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    Bas

    Guess there's always another thing to raise a panic about, eh?

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    kettch

    ,magicalclick wrote

    Win8 runs on a much faster, bigger battery, bigger ram systems. WinPh still have much less hardware to work with.

    Not necessarily. The new SOCs that power phones are pretty much the same as the ones that power tablets. 1.5GHz dual core processors with 512MB of RAM. That's within spec. Obviously a phone version of Win8 would need to have further optimizations, but it doesn't seem so far fetched.

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    Richard.Hein

    All they have to do is put the WinRT on the Windows Phone, right?

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    AndyC

    Of course it's not dead. Steve Balmer very, very clearly stated that apps written for Windows Phone 7 are going to run on all versions of the phone for some considerable time.

    It may well be that the phone platform ultimately ends up running on NT rather than CE, but that doesn't make the work done to produce Phone 7 worthless. For one thing, Windows 8 may well not have taken the route it did if they hadn't felt confident in the approach they'd taken with the phone. For another, Windows 8 isn't ready for anything yet so it sure wouldn't make much of a phone OS today and Microsoft needed very much to get back in the game there.

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    W3bbo

    ,AndyC wrote

    Of course it's not dead. Steve Balmer very, very clearly stated that apps written for Windows Phone 7 are going to run on all versions of the phone for some considerable time.

    Apple showed us how you can use a "desktop" OS in a handheld form-factor to the detriment of nothing (except RAM usage if you're miserly with memory).

    I see it inevitable that a future "Windows Phone" will be just the Metro component of "Windows 8 for Tablets" seeming as handheld devices are essentially identical to the tablets thanks to modern SoC design, the only difference is the size of the screen.

    So if everyone's moving to NT, what will CE be useful for? It seems the only thing going for it is the real-time kernel, but do typical CE users, like kiosk developers, need that? If you're building safety-critical systems you'd use a different OS.

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