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Jullian Assange Escape Plan

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    sysrpl

    This document describes a method for Julian Assange to escape from Britain, avoiding arrest and arriving safely undetected in Ecuador.

    Materials and personal required:

    1 security expert who can sweep the embassy for bugs
    1 person of the same height and approximate weight as Julian Assange
    1 highly skilled special effects makeup artist
    1 car driver and car
    1 diplomat and airplane prepped for an international flight

    A brief description of the plan:

    A person (the visitor) not looking at all like Julian Assange, but of his same height and approximate weight, regularly makes short daily "in and out" visits the Ecuadorian embassy in Britain. If the police routinely see the visitor entering and leaving the embassy everyday and allow him to come and go unmolested then one day the visitor stops showing up and Assange has escaped.

    How it works:

    All principles are given the details of the escape plan including, a special effects makeup artist, a visitor, a driver, a diplomat.

    A security expert begins making regular trips to the Embassy to make sure it is free of ease dropping or spy equipment. Equipment which make have been secretly installed by the British authorities. Keeping the activities of individuals inside the Ecuadorian secret is important for any escape plan to work.

    A person, the visitor, is to be interviewed selected based on secret confidence and his Julian Assange matching height and weight. A confidential make up artists meets with the visitor takes photos, does his studies, then visits the Ecuadorian embassy to do the same with Assange.

    The visitor then begins to make regular, short daily visits to the Ecuadorian embassy, and unbeknownst to the police, acclimating them to his regular short visits. A week or so later the makeup artist begins making trips to the embassy where he stays overnight, again acclimating the police to his routine.

    A duplicate pair of clothing purchased. One set is given to the visitor, the other is worn by the makeup artist underneath his clothing.

    The day before the planned escape the makeup artist goes to the Embassy as usual. He begins the process of transforming Assange into the visitor. Care and time is taken to make certain Assange looks absolutely identical to the visitor.

    Then next morning Assange changes into the duplicate set of clothing delivered by the makeup artist. The visitor arrives at the Embassy wearing the same outfit, looking identical to the transformed Assange. A final touch up to is made to Assange when he and the visitor are side by side, hidden in private inside the Embassy.

    After a few minutes, per usual, the visitor leaves the embassy. But this time it is not the visitor, it is Assange disguised as the visitor.

    Both the makeup artist and the real visitor remain hidden (out of sight of any windows) inside the embassy until Assange has arrived in Ecuador.

    Assange in disguise walks down the street and is picked up by the driver. He is driven to a private airport with a plane and diplomat waiting. He boards the plane along with the diplomat, making the plane a diplomatic plane, and leaves Britain flying towards Ecuador.

    How the plain might fail:

    If the police stop and interview everyone entering and leaving, regardless of their visit frequency then this plan will not work. Assange will not be arrested, but it will be known to the principles that the plan cannot go forward and should be aborted.

    If someone leaks the details of the plans to the British authorities then the plan will fail. The confidence of the principles and secrecy of the plan is paramount.

    If the British employ spy techniques greater than those that can be resolved by the security expert, the plan may be revealed, possibly leading to the capture of Assange.

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    Harlequin

    Someone has been watching the A-Team like I've been.

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    JohnAskew

    Obviously you have Tom Cruise in mind for the doppleganger, no doubt...

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    Dr Herbie

    No, no, no.  Assange will have tunneled his way out by then -- the 'decoy' should be a double-bluff to take the police attention away from the manhole cover in the side-alley which is where Assange will pop up in about 6 months time.

    Herbie

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    spivonious

    @Dr Herbie: That reminds me of the bad Ben Stiller movie "Tower Heist".

    Assange is a coward. He needs to man up and face the charges against him.

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    Maddus Mattus

    He's being shipped out in parts.

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    evildictait​or

    If the British employ spy techniques greater than those that can be resolved by the security expert, the plan may be revealed, possibly leading to the capture of Assange.

    Yeah, it would be a shame if Britain, home of MI5, breakers of the German Enigma, inventors of public key cryptography and fully paid-up member of the UK/US alliance were to have better spies than Ecuador - a third world country that barely has running water and food for its population.

    Assange is a coward. He needs to man up and face the charges against him.

    ++.

    He's facing trial for rape in Sweden, not for Wikileaks in the US. People need to remember that.

    His alleged victims deserve better than for Assange to once again blatantly flout the law. If he didn't do it, the court will find him innocent and he can go back to stroking his own ego. If he did, Ecuador aren't protecting a defender of free-speech, they're just protecting a rapist.

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    sysrpl

    @spivonious:what exactly do you think assange is charged with, other than not reporting to the British authorities?

     

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    Dr Herbie

    @evildictaitor: Alleged rapist (innocent until proven guilty, right?)

    The reason Assange doesn't want to go to Sweden is not the rape charge (there is a reasonable chance that he would get off completely or with a minimal sentence) -- it is because he believes that it will be used by the USA to extradite him there where he would expect to face poor treatment (given that Bradley Manning has been treated so poorly before his trial) and possibly even the death sentence.

    The answer would be for Sweden to guarantee that he would not be extradited (or to allow him to give evidence remotely from the UK which he has offered to do), then Assange would have no choice but to go to trial. I personally find it odd that the Swedish authorities aren't willing to give any assurances against extradition other than stating they will not allow him to be extradited to face the death penalty (but no assurances that he won't be extradited to a 500 year sentence in a military jail).

    I would like to see Assange to to trial if only to see the media concentrate on the contents of the wikileaks information and not on the founder.

    Herbie

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    evildictait​or

    , Dr Herbie wrote

    @evildictaitor: Alleged rapist (innocent until proven guilty, right?)

    I said "alleged victims" and said Ecuador is harbouring a rapist "if he did it".

    I personally find it odd that the Swedish authorities aren't willing to give any assurances against extradition other than stating they will not allow him to be extradited to face the death penalty (but no assurances that he won't be extradited to a 500 year sentence in a military jail).

    Why should they? If the US want to extradite him for breaking their laws, why should Assange have immunity from that? He's not the messiah, he's just a very naughty boy.

    Assange should stand trial for the crimes he's alleged to have committed. Nobody is above the law.

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    Dr Herbie

    @evildictaitor: On closer reading I can see that you did -- my apologies, I just didn't see it clearly.

    Herbie

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    Dr Herbie

    @evildictaitor: We need whistle-blowers to keep governments in line. Without Wikileaks we wouldn't have known several important things such as ACTA that the US and other Governments were doing behind closed doors here's a nice infographic for 8 such things:

    http://usahitman.com/8twnkww/

     

    Herbie

     

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    evildictait​or

    , Dr Herbie wrote

    @evildictaitor: We need whistle-blowers to keep governments in line. Without Wikileaks we wouldn't have known several important things such as ACTA that the US and other Governments were doing behind closed doors here's a nice infographic for 8 such things:

    http://usahitman.com/8twnkww/

    Herbie

    Whistleblowing is different to just publishing vast quantities of information. If your company does something evil, I'd have sympathy with you telling the world about the evilness, and possibly even enough confidential material to prove it.

    I wouldn't have any sympathy for you if you downloaded your entire company's databases of information, source code, entire email archives and all of the files you can get your hands on, and then publish them verbatim on the Internet.

    Wikileaks was a good idea, and I largely supported it up until the US diplomatic cables leak. That wasn't about freedom of speech, or whistleblowing. It was about Assange's private crusade against the US.

    For example, was it really necessary to leak this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Foreign_Dependencies_Initiative. Seems pretty easy to classify that as materially aiding America's enemies in the event of a future conflict with no civilian use for that information or public interest defence. On it's own that's probably enough to try Assange for treason in the US.

    Sometimes things are classified because the information is dangerous in the wrong hands, not because there is a conspiracy that is being covered-up. Assange clearly failed to distinguish the two.

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    Harlequin

    You also need to remember that a consulate is considered foreign soil, and if I remember right so are the vehicles. So Assange could leave via a limo and still be safe.

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    Dr Herbie

    @Harlequin: UK Government has already said that they will arrest him from a vehicle or even a 'diplomatic bag' (however they figure that one out).  This is why he's still in the UK.

    Herbie

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    evildictait​or

    , Dr Herbie wrote

    @Harlequin: UK Government has already said that they will arrest him from a vehicle or even a 'diplomatic bag' (however they figure that one out).  This is why he's still in the UK.

    A diplomatic bag can be a full-sized ship-container. You could smuggle several people in there.

    You also need to remember that a consulate is considered foreign soil, and if I remember right so are the vehicles. So Assange could leave via a limo and still be safe.

    The police aren't obliged to let the diplomatic vehicle leave the embassy though.

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