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    vesuvius

    @Bass:Remember that the Channel 9 website you are using this minute is using nHibernate, and thatis a Microsoft site.

    You always seem to indicate indicate that .NET users are morons that only choose something because "it is from Microsoft" that simply is not true.

    I have used the Linq to SQL ORM, and the EF. If I need something heavier than that I would opt for nHibernate.

    A lot of the  passion that the haters have lies in 'minutate', rather than issues that would deny a project progression. Once you have worked on a few big systems, in hetrogenous environments, you soon understand why a standard .NET is the best, rather than the distro way of doing things.

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    PerfectPhase

    @vesuvius: And memcache rather than velocity.

     

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    Bass

    ,figuerres wrote

    ,Bass wrote

    The author put down in writing what I have been thinking all along. As a new Java developer, I'm amazed how big the Java open source community is.


    I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that the best minds in .NET open source (eg: Miguel de Icaza and the Mono team in general), are too busy reimplementing everything Microsoft has already done. It's a waste of talent really. But there is a demand for cross-platform .NET and that demand WILL be met, if not by Microsoft by the people who run the Mono project. It would be better if Microsoft would open source .NET.

     

    Bass:

    *IF* MS was to publish a full .net Open Source package how many of the Linux/FOSS crowd would even care?

    how many would start carrying on that it was an Evil Plot ?

    how many would refuse to accept it cause it came from MS ?

     

    Microsoft earned their reputation.

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    blowdart

    ,Bass wrote

     

    ,figuerres wrote

    ,Bass wrote

    The author put down in writing what I have been thinking all along. As a new Java developer, I'm amazed how big the Java open source community is.


    I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that the best minds in .NET open source (eg: Miguel de Icaza and the Mono team in general), are too busy reimplementing everything Microsoft has already done. It's a waste of talent really. But there is a demand for cross-platform .NET and that demand WILL be met, if not by Microsoft by the people who run the Mono project. It would be better if Microsoft would open source .NET.

     

    Bass:

    *IF* MS was to publish a full .net Open Source package how many of the Linux/FOSS crowd would even care?

    how many would start carrying on that it was an Evil Plot ?

    how many would refuse to accept it cause it came from MS ?

     

     

    Microsoft earned their reputation.

    And Sun/Oracle have earned theirs, but there's still Java open source.

    Everytime I see a public flounce from one language to another (even if it's from Java to C#) I have to wonder how much of it is because the author is trying to convince himself/herself he/she did the right thing.

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    figuerres

    ,Bass wrote

     

    ,figuerres wrote

    ,Bass wrote

    The author put down in writing what I have been thinking all along. As a new Java developer, I'm amazed how big the Java open source community is.


    I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that the best minds in .NET open source (eg: Miguel de Icaza and the Mono team in general), are too busy reimplementing everything Microsoft has already done. It's a waste of talent really. But there is a demand for cross-platform .NET and that demand WILL be met, if not by Microsoft by the people who run the Mono project. It would be better if Microsoft would open source .NET.

     

    Bass:

    *IF* MS was to publish a full .net Open Source package how many of the Linux/FOSS crowd would even care?

    how many would start carrying on that it was an Evil Plot ?

    how many would refuse to accept it cause it came from MS ?

     

     

    Microsoft earned their reputation.

     

    so you want MS to spend time and money doing some thing that no one but you wants and has no real benefit to most users of computers ?

    who benefits ?

    why should MS do it?

    ( it does not have to  be a direct return to MS profits, just give a decent answer to the question)

    shure MS could point to it and say they are doing the right thing, that would be cool.

    but after that what's the good it does ?

     

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    Bass

     

    ,blowdart wrote

     

    ,Bass wrote

     

    ,figuerres wrote

    ,Bass wrote

    The author put down in writing what I have been thinking all along. As a new Java developer, I'm amazed how big the Java open source community is.


    I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that the best minds in .NET open source (eg: Miguel de Icaza and the Mono team in general), are too busy reimplementing everything Microsoft has already done. It's a waste of talent really. But there is a demand for cross-platform .NET and that demand WILL be met, if not by Microsoft by the people who run the Mono project. It would be better if Microsoft would open source .NET.

     

    Bass:

    *IF* MS was to publish a full .net Open Source package how many of the Linux/FOSS crowd would even care?

    how many would start carrying on that it was an Evil Plot ?

    how many would refuse to accept it cause it came from MS ?

     

     

    Microsoft earned their reputation.

    And Sun/Oracle have earned theirs, but there's still Java open source.

     

    Everytime I see a public flounce from one language to another (even if it's from Java to C#) I have to wonder how much of it is because the author is trying to convince himself/herself he/she did the right thing.

    For every .NET programmer that is lost, some vocational school in Central Asia churns out another 1,000. I don't think you have anything to worry about.

     

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    Chadk

    ,blowdart wrote

     

    Everytime I see a public flounce from one language to another (even if it's from Java to C#) I have to wonder how much of it is because the author is trying to convince himself/herself he/she did the right thing.

    Every. Single. Time.

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