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Maybe it's my age, but live tiles isn't working for me

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    fanbaby

    For example, this PR clip made to showcase Microsoft's numbers, just makes me dizzy. I feel like i'm always missing something. Maybe it works great for younger users?

     

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    Jim Young

    It can't be your age. Live tiles work fine for me and I'll bet top dollar that I'm older than anyone else here Wink

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    Sven Groot

    @fanbaby: So is your determination that it isn't working for you based on PR clips, or on any real world attempt to use them for any length of time?

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    Minh

    Do you have any kids playing on your lawn? Or have you shoo'd them all away?

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    cheong

    For me, the tiles are fine, but admittedly a bit distracting.

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    bondsbw

    Really there are two times I can see that the "live" part of live tiles are used:

    • When a tablet is docked and its main purpose is to sit on the table and look pretty while displaying live data via Start screen
    • When checking aggregate information during the course of normal use

    Microsoft could do a bit better in both of these areas, in my personal opinion:

    • Allow live tiles on the lock screen (touching them would prompt to unlock), so I can keep the tablet secure but still gain the benefits of live tiles
    • Allow the start screen to sit in a snap view, so I can see live tiles without moving away from my current app
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    magicalclick

    I guess it is because the screen is changing contents more frequently than you liked. Also because the YouTube video has terrible frame rate on the webpage. Low FPS tends to cause motion sickness, that's why my CS:S is minimum at 75fps. Anyway, mine Win8 is not as busy has that. I shrinked the tiles, so, it fits more apps in the screen. And I have ModernMix to pin my mail app. I don't care much about the live feed. Just showing me new message count and I will launch the app, which basically works after I shrink the tile.

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    Bass

    @fanbaby:

    You aren't the only one. I'm a fan of tiling window managers though. Smiley Which tend to be designed for keyboard input and large multi-monitor setups.

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    magicalclick

    Anyway, just do what Sinofsky said if your are a typical user. Pin your app/metro app to taskbar and forget about StartMenu or StartScreen.

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    bondsbw

    @Bass: That's one of the things I like about snap view, is that it finally brings something akin to a TWM to Windows natively.  

    None of the 3rd-party tools for Windows that try to emulate this concept really do a good job.  They divide up your screen into logical areas that you can maximize windows into, which is good.  But they still allow overlapping windows, they aren't built for windows that have a fixed size, and they don't even maximize natively (they take over the maximize function, but the window looks normal instead of maximized). 

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    evildictait​or

    Do you actually run Windows8?

    It's a bit hard to take your criticisms of it seriously if they are based off videos on YouTube rather than you actually using it.

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    evildictait​or

    , cheong wrote

    For me, the tiles are fine, but admittedly a bit distracting.

    You can turn them off if they get distracting (right click: Turn off live tile).

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    Bass

    , bondsbw wrote

    @Bass: That's one of the things I like about snap view, is that it finally brings something akin to a TWM to Windows natively.  

    None of the 3rd-party tools for Windows that try to emulate this concept really do a good job.  They divide up your screen into logical areas that you can maximize windows into, which is good.  But they still allow overlapping windows, they aren't built for windows that have a fixed size, and they don't even maximize natively (they take over the maximize function, but the window looks normal instead of maximized). 

    Yes, the "aero snap" feature is a godsend for productivity in Windows, I feel like it came from some Microsoft engineer who secretly loves tiling window management but couldn't convince his superiors to go all out.

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    GoddersUK

    , Jim Young wrote

    I'm older than anyone else here Wink

    Your username begs to differ... Tongue Out

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    Retro​Recursion

    @fanbaby:

    I agree that live tiles are not my favorite in practice. While I love the idea of information pouring through the tile, a bit problem I've found is confusion of brand. Traditional icons used to be 100% about the brand, but with tiles you really have to look for the branded icon. I don't know how many times I accidentally taped the Travel app when I mean to check the News app. with similar phones popping up in the tiles, you really have to look to know which one you are dealing with.

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    evildictait​or

    It's actually a website, not a video:

    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/bythenumbers/index.html

    But yes. Too many tiles flickering is annoying. Thankfully in the (real) start screen most of the tiles don't move, and the ones that do you can turn off by right-click > disable-live-tile.

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    Ion Todirel

    I agree with you, personally I also don't get Metro and quite dislike it quite frankly, it's not aesthetically pleasing and it's rather grayscale to my eyes, but that's me, what might not work for me might work for you

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    exoteric

    Instead of turning them off can you change the transition effect? I like the idea but not the implementation.

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