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Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer to retire within 12 months?

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  • PeterF
  • wastingtime​withforums

    OH WOW!

  • wastingtime​withforums

    I wonder whether the Lenovo decision was the last straw. I mean the biggest OEM pre-installing software that pretty much bypasses the whole metro effort..

  • PeterF

    I wonder if anyone would have lasted longer with so many critics wanting you to leave whilst having so much on the bank account.

    Judging from the stock, some might speculate a buyout of Nokia and Elop for president Wink

  • wastingtime​withforums

    As someone who has criticized Microsoft's decisions a lot on this forum, and who was the loudest of all here, I want to say something:

    I am pretty sure he wouldn't have retired at this point, if his recent decisions would have been overall more successful (he said a few years ago, that he would consider retirement in 2017/2018). But, this decision takes courage, especially at this time, because he probably knows that he will get a lot of blame hurled at him now in the press.

    With this announcement, he made the right decision in my opinion, and I wish him all the best for the future.

  • Proton2
  • PeterF

    I think you wanted to create your own thread about that news Wink

    Beforehand people were also upset with the casting of the Joker

  • spivonious

    Ballmer always made money for MS, but I think what they need now is someone who can lead the company in terms of vision and innovation, and not be afraid to lose some money in the process.

    I'm not sure who that should be.

  • Ray7

    , PeterF wrote

    I wonder if anyone would have lasted longer with so many critics wanting you to leave whilst having so much on the bank account.

    Judging from the stock, some might speculate a buyout of Nokia and Elop for president Wink

    Windows8 sales

    Surface sales

    Windows Phone sales

    He was left in charge of a monopoly. He should have done better. 

  • MasterPi

    @spivonious: He did a good job sustaining the ship. They just need someone who can steer it to new waters.

  • giovanni

    @PeterF: I, as many others, have mixed feelings about Ballmer. Overall I like the guy: he truly is passionate, but it is not easy to manage such a huge and mature company. I like the direction Microsoft took with more attention to design and details, I like the Metro, pardon, Modern interfaces, and I like how Ballmer has tried to reorganize Microsoft making it a more united and faster moving company. It also makes very much sense to me that he tried to move Microsoft from Software to a Devices and Services company.

    However, I guess the transition to a device company isn't easy. I own a Surface RT and I think it is a very good device, but it smells "version one" all over. How could they overstock something like this so much? Now that is a sign of trouble and needed change.

    The big question is who can take Baller's place now? Like him or not, he grew with the company and knew it inside out. it will not be easy to find someone with the passion, personality and knowledge required to drive forward such a huge company. I guess I will send in my CV, who knows Wink

  • cbae

    , Ray7 wrote

    *snip*

    Windows8 sales

    Surface sales

    Windows Phone sales

    He was left in charge of a monopoly. He should have done better. 

    If you believe critics, then Ballmer could have "done better" by not having done anything.

  • DeathBy​VisualStudio

    BEST NEWS ALL YEAR! (for me anyway). This was long overdue. Sadly this won't change Microsoft's fortunes overnight but at least there is hope now. He's made many bad decisions over the years but his biggest failure IMO was betting on Sinofsky and W8 instead of Allard and the Courier tablet. It wasn't just the technology in that bad bet; it was the choice of leadership.

    Gotta wonder what Sinofsky's opinion is on all of this?

    As for "Devices & Services Company" goes IMO that's a dead-end. They should be a "Software & Services Company"; get Office and all of their apps on every viable platform. All of it wired to SkyDrive and SharePoint in the cloud. Make it easy (and inexpensive) for small and mid-sized companies to leverage services on the back-end (Exchange, Lync, Sharepoint) as well has develop and host their own (Azure). Keep developers in the Microsoft fold by buying Xamarin and folding that into the development stack for free. Make it easy for us developers to write cross-platform, multi-device type applications tied to their back-end and services (and development stack). No doubt they have a lot of their pieces but they haven't put it all together in something that business, developers, and consumers can all hang their hat on.

    As for Windows and devices IMO they should still let that experiment grow but not make the success of the other business units dependent on it. If the Windows and devices teams can put out something people really desire that's icing on the cake.

    If we all believed in unicorns and fairies the world would be a better place.
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  • BitFlipper

    For once, some good news out of MS. I just hope whoever takes over also doesn't think the direction MS has been taking the last few years is the correct one. MS needs to go back to their roots, because no matter how hard they try they will never be cool. Trying to be like Apple will be their downfall.

  • cbae

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    As for "Devices & Services Company" goes IMO that's a dead-end.

    The truth is, selling software is probably what's going to be the dead-end. That's the way the industry is moving. I think in 10 years you'll be hard pressed to find any piece of software that you can install and run without having some kind of connected service that you'll have to pay for.

     

  • magicalclick

    Sadly I don't think this would help MS getting back up. Unless someone has official proofs that, lack of Windowed Metro and missing Start Screen icon on the taskbar, internet requirement on Xbox One, are forced by Steve Ballmer. Because these are not his fault regardless how unattractive he is.

    Leaving WM on 5/2018 if no apps, no dedicated billboards where I drive, no Store name.
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  • MasterPi

    , magicalclick wrote

    Sadly I don't think this would help MS getting back up. Unless someone has official proofs that, lack of Windowed Metro and missing Start Screen icon on the taskbar, internet requirement on Xbox One, are forced by Steve Ballmer. Because these are not his fault regardless how unattractive he is.

    A lot of things aren't his fault (or solely his fault). But the general perception has assumed otherwise. Shaking things up a bit could only remove that bias, potentially allowing for better perception.

  • DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , cbae wrote

    *snip*

    The truth is, selling software is probably what's going to be the dead-end. That's the way the industry is moving. I think in 10 years you'll be hard pressed to find any piece of software that you can install and run without having some kind of connected service that you'll have to pay for.

    Devices without software are useless so selling software is hardly a dead-end. Having software dependent on services you have to pay for is exactly what Microsoft needs to go after IMO. What they need to loose is the notion that the software is dependent on Windows. Sell software on as many platforms as feasible and get both the software sales & back-end service fee or bundle it all in a subscription service like Office 365.

    If we all believed in unicorns and fairies the world would be a better place.
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