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Microsoft have outdone Apple. Period!

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  • Bass

    @vesuvius:

    So after fixing the VM problem, my first impression is "slow as f**k". If this was Ubuntu, I'd already be using it by now. I was even being generous and gave Windows 8 access to 2 GB of RAM (I give Ubuntu only 1 GB).

    But after install, Windows 8 seems to be endlessly stuck on some ugly loading screen. Maybe it actually crashed, but I am too scared to reboot in the case it will corrupt my install.

    So, I'm removing that 1 point I gave it thus far. Windows 8: 0/10.

  • Ray7

    ,AndyC wrote

    *snip*

    To paraphrase Steve Jobs, "For Microsoft to succeed it's not necessary for Apple or Google to fail"

    And if the Linux community had learned this long ago then they might have made a dent in the desktop market.

     

  • Ray7

    ,Bass wrote

    @vesuvius:

    So after fixing the VM problem, my first impression is "slow as f**k". If this was Ubuntu, I'd already be using it by now. I was even being generous and gave Windows 8 access to 2 GB of RAM (I give Ubuntu only 1 GB).

    But after install, Windows 8 seems to be endlessly stuck on some ugly loading screen. Maybe it actually crashed, but I am too scared to reboot in the case it will corrupt my install.

    So, I'm removing that 1 point I gave it thus far. Windows 8: 0/10.

    So you're installing a pre-beta OS in a VM ?

  • Bass

    @vesuvius:

    Finally, the "Personalize settings" wizard thing popped up. Green on white. Ugly as sin. I click "Express settings", nothing happens for quite some time. No progressbar, nothing. No warning at all.

     

     

  • Bass

    @Ray7:

    And why the hell not? I install many things on a VM, it seems on Windows 8 is having problems here. I'm not going to hold it to a lower standard because Microsoft wrote it. They can test their sh!t a little better before they release it to the world, especially if an OS made by a bunch of volunteers manages to get it right.

    PS: Still waiting on "Express settings" to complete.

  • AndyC

    ,Bass wrote

    Thus far I must give a Windows 8 a 1/10, the one point being for the pretty BSOD. Perhaps I'll get it to work eventually, but IMO if I can get Gentoo Linux or FreeBSD to install in a VM without problems, I expect a "professional" and "user friendly" OS to be similar, even a prerelease.

    It might be hard to believe from using them, but Gentoo and FreeBSD are actually "release" versions, so naturally should be more usable. Expecting pre-beta software to work properly, especially in an environment you have been recommended not to try it in (i.e. a VM), is kind of dumb.

  • Bass

    No, I am not holding Microsoft to a lower standard. They are a huge company with THOUSANDS of paid software engineers. FreeBSD and Gentoo do not. Even so, Gentoo works on a rolling release (possibly a foreign concept to people who only use Windows) and I still never recall having problems installing it on a VM.

    The fact that I even had problems at all is a huge fail this far, but I'm still not giving up on my evaluation. Maybe there is something really good in Windows 8 as vesuvius claims.

    Still stuck on "Express settings".

  • Maddus Mattus

    Started installing on my Lenovo R50p 10 minutes ago, first restart,..

    I'll beat you to the personalized settings!

  • Maddus Mattus

    Loading spinning progress brings my memories back of my commodore 64, don't know why.

  • Bass

    If Express settings doesn't do something in the next minute or so, I am rebooting. This is ridiculous.

  • Bass

    Oh wow, it finally did something. The screen is now totally black instead of green on white! Wooo... progress!

  • Maddus Mattus

    @Bass:It's allready installed, only took about 30 minutes,..

    Now, are two mice supported so I can pinch?

  • Bass

    Still stuck on a "black screen". At least it isn't as ugly as the previous screen. I can move my mouse, but that's all.

    The beautiful Windows 8 UI thus far:

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  • Ray7

    ,Bass wrote

    No, I am not holding Microsoft to a lower standard. They are a huge company with THOUSANDS of paid software engineers. FreeBSD and Gentoo do not. Even so, Gentoo works on a rolling release (possibly a foreign concept to people who only use Windows) and I still never recall having problems installing it on a VM.

    Ah, okay. I see what this is about ... Smiley

    Your personal prejudices aside, this is a pre-release OS so expect problems. If this was the final release then you'd have a point. As it stands, you don't.

    The fact that I even had problems at all is a huge fail this far, but I'm still not giving up on my evaluation. Maybe there is something really good in Windows 8 as vesuvius claims.

    Well, good for you, but I'm not sure why you're bothering;  you clearly have no intention of giving it a fair shake.

  • Bass

    I'm holding it to the same standard as amateurish OSes written by volunteers and designed for computer experts (Gentoo/FreeBSD). I guess my standards are too high, haha.

    Still stuck on a black screen. I'm guess I'm being to strict though, being stuck on a black screen for 10 minutes is just part of the Windows pre-release experience.

  • Maddus Mattus

    It's running fine, bit flakey, but no good drivers installed.

  • Bass

    Starting a reboot. Sorry, Windows, you had your chance.

  • Bass

    Won't reboot / ACPI Shutdown. Must do a hard reset I guess. Hope nothing breaks.

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