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Microsoft's HoloLens will ship to developers 'within the next year'

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    Ian2

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02yhy3m

     "Satya Nadella has been at the helm at Microsoft since February 2014. Windows 10, which was released globally on Wednesday, is his most important milestone yet.

    He hopes it will reverse the company's fortunes in the smartphone sector, where currently the company only has around 3% market share.

    He talked to the BBC's North America technology reporter Dave Lee for Click about his hopes for Windows, the future of interaction, and issues around user trust."

     

     

    Cool!  Where do I sign?

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    magicalclick

    Me too. I am interested in this. I am going to make the Ted and hug him. :)

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    cheong

    @magicalclick: Me think that possibly it'll be shipped to whoever "Developer Preview" enabled their phone when ready.

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    Ian2

    , cheong wrote

    @magicalclick: Me think that possibly it'll be shipped to whoever "Developer Preview" enabled their phone when ready.

     

    That's a nice thought but I suspect it will probably go to the developers who work in large software houses first, and then probably those who are already developing for competing products (Rift etc). 

    Still, I would like to put forward the view that MS should send out dev kits to long term Niners in the first instance..

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    cheong

    @Ian2: Well, there's only a little people who participate in WP Apps development here. The user based would be too small if you limit it to "long term Niners".

    On the other hand, ship it to "long term dev center account holders" could have make more sense, but that'll roughly be meaning the same thing as people who "Developer Preview" unlocked their phone.

    Btw, I'd like to hear what will be the expected lowest spec. of phone that will be allowed to run this feature. My Lumia 920's screen have grown significantly yellow and I'm considering replacing it some later time. Will Lumia 940 be enough to run it or do I need to wait one more version?

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    Ian2

    @cheong: Although there will be opportunities to enhance the experience by linking with phones and tablets neither are needed for the HoloLens experience as it is completely stand alone - at least that is my own understanding.

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    Bas

    I'm pretty sure cheong is talking about Windows 10 Mobile while Ian and magicalclick are talking about Hololens.

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    Vaccano

    , Ian2 wrote

    [Satya Nadella] hopes it will reverse the company's fortunes in the smartphone sector, where currently the company only has around 3% market share.

    Microsoft will never have a successful phone until they get the big companies to treat their store as a first tier store.

    One of the primary companies that Microsoft needs to win over is Microsoft.

    The vast majority of their apps are better on other platforms than they are for Windows Mobile. Or they just don't exist in the Microsoft Store at all.

    I was listening to a podcast last week that was discussing a new TFS app from Microsoft that released ONLY on android.

    How can Microsoft expect developers to take their mobile offering seriously when they themselves do not?

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    elmer

    I think that Microsoft's best bet in the phone market is with the so-called 'Surface' phone - Intel W10 Mobile based - that can act as a true W10 computer once a monitor, keyboard and mouse are attached. Not just running universal apps (as Joe B demoed) but running all desktop apps because it's Intel based. That is a clear differentiator from the competition.

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    bondsbw

    @Vaccano:  Agreed.  But, I can understand them being slow to support phone versions < 10... as crappy as it is, WP8.1 is the new WP7, and Microsoft recognizes that developing legacy universal apps isn't going to help their platform nearly as much as having their apps polished for 10's release.

    After Windows 10 Mobile edition is released, every phone app and update the company produces should come out on W10 phones first, or at the same time as non-Windows platforms.

    And this needs to be the last d*** time that Microsoft kills their phone platform.

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    cheong

    @Bas: Yes. I was thinking the HoloLens would be peripherals to WinPhone/Desktop like Kinect to XBox. In this way it'll be easier to get the required computing power for the 3D graphics and easier for others to develop for it.

    Not aware that it's made to be standalone product.

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    Vaccano

    , bondsbw wrote

    And this needs to be the last d*** time that Microsoft kills their phone platform.

    Fool me once...

    I loved my Windows 8 phone for the OS and hardware. But I will no longer believe Microsoft promises when it comes to investing in their phone at a whole enterprise level. 

    I switched back to iPhone recently. I don't see me trying out a windows phone again until Microsoft has proven that they will really invest in it.   Not just promises or plans, but actual market proof and success. 

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    Ian2

    @cheong: Apparently MS developed a special holographic chip for it (?) My understanding is their vision is to make it free of any wires (like the latest demos but unlike the original demos where it was tethered to an external CPU box).

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    cheong

    @Ian2: Regardless of whether it's made to be standalone product, it's going to have WiFi/GSM/Bluetooth connection to connect with outside.

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    figuerres

    , cheong wrote

    @Bas: Yes. I was thinking the HoloLens would be peripherals to WinPhone/Desktop like Kinect to XBox. In this way it'll be easier to get the required computing power for the 3D graphics and easier for others to develop for it.

    Not aware that it's made to be standalone product.

    the state of the "SOC" technology has become very good. "SOC"  System on a chip

    take a cpu and GPU firmware, ram and some other parts and put them all on one chip.

    while not quite a chip take a look at what the new Raspberry Pi II  has in such a small package.

     

     

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    cheong

    @figuerres: Good and cool GPU seems, on the other hand, still too good to be true for me.

    I wish I can have my display card working below 70 Degree Celsius, if it can, my desktop hardware probably can live longer. (I still live in a room without air-con)

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    figuerres

    , cheong wrote

    @figuerres: Good and cool GPU seems, on the other hand, still too good to be true for me.

    I wish I can have my display card working below 70 Degree Celsius, if it can, my desktop hardware probably can live longer. (I still live in a room without air-con)

    another factor to keep in mind, desktop GPU cards are doing a massive 3-d render of a whole room with walls, floors, roof, doors, other players , ships, trees, water rocks and so on....

    but HoloLens  is not rendering a complete world, just objects in that world. yes it has a lot of work to do in tacking objects and 3-d geometry but I will guess that the overall workload should be less than a desktop game world.

    and they created hardware optimized for the intended workload.

    put that together with SOC tech and what can be packaged in a cell phone sized box and you have a fairly powerful package.

     

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    cheong

    @figuerres: Fair enough, my old MX400 card is capable to handle simple VRML graphics, so I think it sounds feasible.

    Don't know if HoloLens will try to handle contrast to color of background objects, though.

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