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My new Windows Phone 7 Device (HTC HD7)

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    Lee_Dale

    Just picked up this, lets see if it lives up to th hype Smiley

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    Dr Herbie

    Hype?  What hype?  Compared to an Apple launch, yesterday was fairly quiet.

    Anyway -- let us know how it goes.

    I've ordered a Samsung Omnia 7, but it won't arrive for a couple of weeks!  A bit miffed because it said 5 days when I ordered it, but the page had immediately updated to 10 days afterwards and I got a 'please be patient, we've got more stock coming' email with my confirmation.

    Still -- AMOLED screen is of interest, I'll give first impressions when it (eventually) arrives.

    Herbie

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    Lee_Dale

    Well I mean hype building up to the launch kinda. Yeah nothing like Apple's hype but still.

    Anyway liking the phones big screen so far, even though the resolution is no where near as good as the iPhone 4.

    Really not sure what phone I want to use now. If I give the iPhone to the Mrs it will be destroyed in at least a month lol

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    ManipUni

    The big screen does look nice. It is very telling that with both in hand you cannot decide which to use (even if W7 is better, it isn't THAT much better).

    Also - what hype? If I didn't read C9 I wouldn't have even heard about it. When Apple launched the iPad you couldn't escape the PR for it all over the place (that darn Star Trek image over and over).

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    Lee_Dale

    Well I suppose Ive seen a bit more hype cos I went to launch event in London and a few other Microsoft events where it's been pushed. But yeah i a commercial sense from a non-techy there is virtually no hype

    Especially in the UK. When I phoned my local o2 store to check they had the phone in stock didn't really expect them to say yes to be honest

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    Bas

    No wonder nobody can find any WP7 phones in stores. You bought the only one that was apparently made.

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    Lee_Dale

    @Bas: he he

    The interesting fact here is I never actually bought the phone.  I had an upgrade due and was going to renew anyway, I had no problem with my iPhone 4, in fact after the novelty of the new WP7 phone wears off I'm pretty sure i'll be back using the iPhone.

    I would never have gone and paid money for this phone over the iPhone 4 (which I paid £600 for when it was first launched)

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    BitFlipper

    , ManipUni wrote

    The big screen does look nice. It is very telling that with both in hand you cannot decide which to use (even if W7 is better, it isn't THAT much better).

    Also - what hype? If I didn't read C9 I wouldn't have even heard about it. When Apple launched the iPad you couldn't escape the PR for it all over the place (that darn Star Trek image over and over).

    That is because Apple's PR department, uhm, I mean the media, turns everything Apple does into a major headline story. Not so much any other company's technology.  And especially not anything from MS. Anyone other than Apple have to do their own PR.

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    vesuvius

    What is the battery life like?

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    Lee_Dale

    I'll tell you in a few days but at the moment its not looking good.  Although it been used pretty much constantly all day

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    vesuvius

    I have the HTC desire, and have a long commute to Scotland at the moment, I have to plug my HTC desire in the charger (if I can get a seat on the train) to ensure that whne I arrive I can still use the damn thinkg if I listen to music and browse the internet.

    Yesterday, you had some guy sat wathcing films on an iPhone, without a care in the world. It may well be that android is inefficient, but I don't think HTC have stitched up the battery life issue as well as Apple has.

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    Lee_Dale

    Well after using it heavily for a day I can give a quick verdict:

    Basically WP7 is a vast vast improvement on previous WinMob OS's. BUT it's definately not an iPhone beater at this point (IMO of course).

    It does lots of things really well, I like the home tabs and I like the transitions, the UI, the Office and People hubs. But there are alot of things missing that I take for granted with my iPhone (tethering for one!) 

    I miss multitasking with some apps like Triallian (IM client) and Skype.  I used these alot on my iPhone and had them running in the background constantly to keep in contact with colleagues and friends on the move.  IM is non existent on WP7.  Although having said that I didn't like the way iOS does multitasking, having to go to the task bar to close apps down. Why not provide a way to exit apps permanently with either a button shortcut or via settings on a per app basis?

    The browsing experience is not on par with iPhone, pages seem slower to load and scrolling can sometimes be erratic or jerky.  I find the screen a million times less responsive than the iPhone. Of course these gripes may well be down to the hardware but again this is where Apple wins in only having to support one device.

    The most annoying thing at the moment is the cellular interference through the headphones.  Basically if your using the headphones for calls or listening to media then you get constant interference when there is wireless activity.  This is something that Apple has put alot of thought into and completely eliminated, it seems to be forgotten in this device.

    Also with regards to media, the Zune marketplace just doesn't have enough content.  Where are the TV Shows? where are the audiobooks?  I can't even use my large library of Audible audiobooks on the device because it's not supported (admittedly this is Audible's fault) however from a consumers perspective these are all things that matter and all things that make the iPhone more compelling overall.

    I will continue to use the device for the foreseeable future alongside my iPhone and hope these things get addressed. 

     

     

     

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    Bas

    In other words, this would've been awesome three years ago? Ugh.

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    Sven Groot

    @Bas: Personally, I hope MS will treat WP7 the way they did Silverlight. Silverlight was working uphill against the powerhouse that is Flash, and they had to start from nothing. The 1.0 release was nothing special, just enough to get the word out and their foot in the door, but it wasn't until afterwards that they started putting out the good stuff, and on a very short release schedule.

    WP7 is in a similar situation. They have the iPhone to beat, and they're starting from nothing (if you want to count WM as a starting point, some might argue that counts negatively Tongue Out ). WP7 is very nice, and has all the basic stuff that gets them back in the game again.

    Now if they can just repeat the Silverlight thing by giving us some real compelling stuff in the upcoming versions, and release new version relatively quickly (and, importantly, have them work on existing WP7 devices, just like iOS upgrades work on old iPhones), then they have a chance of becoming a real competitor.

    I personally can't believe that MS would be stupid enough to think that WP7 is enough, that they can rest on their laurels now. They've proven that they can beat the competition in the mobile space before (when Windows Mobile overtook Palm in the PDA market), so let's see them do it again. The game is just a lot different this time, and MS has unfortunately also shown a tendency to completely misunderstand the playing field in this area. But, only time will tell.

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    Minh

    MS does not know how to do polished... They do put it out there and improve it over time... Give them a couple of years

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    ManipUni

    MS does not know how to do polished... They do put it out there and improve it over time... Give them a couple of years


    This. Entirely true. Microsoft have no idea how to polish/finish a product. If development should be 80% "features" and 20% "polish," Microsoft would be doing 98% "features," 2% "polish."

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    Ray7

    , Bas wrote

    In other words, this would've been awesome three years ago? Ugh.

    Did we expect anything different? This is the company that gave us the Kin, remember?

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    PerfectPhase

    The worst thing for me is the storage, 8Gb on the Omnia 7, that's pathetic!!   I brought one today though, transfered to a cheaper contract and got the phone for free.  I'm kind of hoping that the next six months might see some better phones with more storage.

    BTW, brought my phone from the Three shop in Reading, the woman who severed me said that was the first one she had sold. (5:15pm)  This is in the home of microsoft UK!  Does not look promising.

     

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