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New XBOX next year?

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    Ian2

    Just spotted in "Gadget Watch" (plug, plug) T3 & others speculating we are only a year away from a new XBOX

    http://www.videogamer.com/news/xbox_720_likely_at_e3_2012_crytek_on_board_2.html

     

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    aL_

    i hope thats true and that it also supports dx11, dx9 needs to die soon Tongue Out

    it would also mean a dx11 compatible xna framework..

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    Cream​Filling512

    My understanding was Xbox360 graphics were "nearly DX10".  It used unified shaders, but didn't support the full feature set like the new geometry shader stuff.

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    Dovella

    Next Xbox have Windows 8.................................

     

    (My Rumor) Big Smile

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    devSpeed

    @Dovella:Yeah and all games will be in Javascript and HTML 5.

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    spivonious

    , devSpeed wrote

    @Dovella:Yeah and all games will be in Javascript and HTML 5.

    lol

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    PaoloM

    , devSpeed wrote

    @Dovella:Yeah and all games will be in Javascript and HTML 5.

    That's actually a very reasonable assumption (win8 on the next xbox), considering the work done on the ARM kernel. And also considering that the current xbox runs a slightly modified Win2000 kernel.

    On the other hand, I don't understand why you think that HTML/JS development is necessary in Windows 8... Expressionless

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    Ian2

    On the other hand, I don't understand why you think that HTML/JS development is necessary in Windows 8... Expressionless

     

    I think he's just having a laugh. 

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    PaoloM

    I know, but it's getting old very quickly Sad

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    dahat

    I have no inside information on the subject... but I have said it before, and again, and will now say it for a third time:

    While the costs of building such a player will no doubt drop between now and then... given the current investments that Microsoft is making in the existing 360 platform & ecosystem... I’d be flabbergasted if they were to be any eighth generation console in 2012, let alone from Microsoft... doubly so if the economy is still struggling (which it will be). 2015 (*maybe* 2014) is the earliest I would expect to see Microsoft release something in the 8th generation.

    As a consumer/gamer, it'd be neat, sure... but speaking as a pragmatic, it simply isn't going to happen.

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    Dovella

    , devSpeed wrote

    @Dovella:Yeah and all games will be in Javascript and HTML 5.

     

    Uff.... Go to Build Wink

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    Cream​Filling512

    Yeah I'm betting Wii U will be the only next-gen console for a couple years at least.

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    Minh

    @PaoloM: considering the work done on the ARM kernel.

    I wonder... isn't ARM the low wattage / low power architecture? So, the Xbox been through Intel and PowerPC... I wonder what the next level of HD gaming is... I don't think 3D is going to be big just yet... And I don't think it's going to be graphics either... You can't go beyond 1080 ... so, it's gotta be something else...

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    PaoloM

    ARM is another out-of-order CPU architecture, like PowerPC, only with power usage minimization as one of the key design principles.

    So compilers and tools designed for PowerPC should be (relatively) easy to modify and target ARM systems.

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    Minh

    the thing is you'd want devs to start writing games a couple of years before the Xbox is released... and it is rumored to be 2014... I'm guessing the architecture question was answered a long time ago... Although, that does explain why Windows runs on ARM now... very interesting...

    I think the next big thing in gaming hardware is gonna be 100 hardware threads

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    Adam​Speight2008

    @Dovella: I they don't pull a Sony us, and remove the windows 8 OS feature at a unspecified time in the future.

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    aL_

    imo its not at all a given that microsoft will build their next console themselvs.  they might just go out with a firm hardware spec for a 'console windows 8 system' and let other hardware vendors battle it out. Consoles should be PCs anyway, and microsoft has everything to gain from unifying the two..

    Granted, its not the most probable way think will go down, but it would make alot of sense Smiley

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    W3bbo

    , dahat wrote

    I have no inside information on the subject... but I have said it before, and again, and will now say it for a third time:

    Announcing the Xbox 3 at E3 2012 makes sense: often products announced at E3 don't hit the retail shelves for another year, if not longer. Remember how Half-Life 2 rocked everyone in May/June 2003 but it took until October 2004 for the game to actually come out. The Wii U is set for a 2012 release date too (no-doubt staggered, but hopefully not as much as the 21-month delay between the SNES being launched in Japan and Australia getting their hands on it).

    I find it amusing that Nintendo did motion control for the Wii as their "bet the farm" strategy, then everyone else doing it, and now they're going back to their controller roots.

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