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    , Sven Groot wrote

    It is not a more illogical place than the start menu to be sure.

    It is. The start menu was the central hub. Its name wasn't exactly great, but it was sort of logical that the central hub would have the option to shutdown.

    But.. settings?! Don't fool yourself, it's stoopid. The "Start" issue got fixed by Vista anyway.

    , Sven Groot wrote

    One thing I don't know is why there's no shut down option under your username on the start screen. I mean, there's lock and sign out there, having shut down there would both make sense and be easier to find.

    Because no one bothered to test that stuff with real users?

    Quote: Windows 7 and Windows 8 were developed in abject isolation from the outside world, because Microsoft disbanded the beta testing teams that had previously offered feedback at a very early point in development.

    Wow, that explains quite a bit! It worked with Windows 7 because W7 is basically just a bugfixed Vista. And the UI of Vista in turn was mostly that of XP. But once they had to design a new UI, the disbanding of the testing groups misfired badly on them with Windows 8.

    Read it aloud: Windows 8's UI had no testing! Dang, it shows.