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New anti-Win8 video is making rounds

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  • brian.​shapiro

    , Minh wrote

    It being near Christmas, we must remembered that Jesus was hated and misunderstood, too. Look where he is now

     

    <== tech evangelism

  • magicalclick

    He still fails because the actual image backup is called Windows 7 Image Backup, which is specifically under classic view of the control panel folder. Using the charm bar won't help him.

     

    I do think some of the things are confusing, but, seriously, I would think anyone with enough brains already aware of hidden win corner and charm corner long before the release of Win8.

    Leaving WM on 5/2018 if no apps, no dedicated billboards where I drive, no Store name.
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  • elmer

    I don't like windows 8 as a desktop OS, and frankly I refuse to use it, but nevertheless, this is just stupidly over-the-top and serves no valuable purpose.

  • Retro​Recursion

    @elmer: I'm not using Windows 8 either as a desktop OS. But I do appreciate that this video calls out some of the principles broken in Win8. I think Neilson Group gave a very valid review of the Win8 interface and I'm surprised at how many people have dismissed it. No matter how you slice it, just about every task is less discoverable and/or take more steps to accomplish than in Windows 7. How is that moving forward?

  • wastingtime​withforums

    Follow up:

    Seems that the touchpad gestures have killed the guy.

  • Dr Herbie

    @wastingtimewithforums: Seems that what's killing the guy is running a new OS without reading anything about how to use it.

    My wife recently brought an iPad home from then school where she works -- the staff use them for taking 'observation' notes about the kids.  Neither of us had used an iPad before and we did just what this guy is doing -- we went in blind and tried to figure it out.  Neither of us lasted 20 minutes, although we did manage to take photos and notes eventually. Figuring out how to delete our notes was particular fun -- one add needed a right-swipe over an item to show the 'delete' button, while another automatically shows the delete option; right-swipe to delete -- is that an iPad thing?

    There is no such thing as an 'intuitive' OS anymore - they're ALL to complex for that now, you HAVE to read up on the basics of how to use them.

    Herbie

     

  • wastingtime​withforums

    , Dr Herbie wrote

    @wastingtimewithforums: Seems that what's killing the guy is running a new OS without reading anything about how to use it. 

    Why should he, when he knows Win7. It's called Windows 8, not Metro 8.

    without reading anything about how to use it  - why should.. Oh, because Metro gets in the way all the time, even if you just use a touchpad? You don't say...

  • Dr Herbie

    @wastingtimewithforums: It's NOT Windows 7 -- it is different, so he needs to learn new stuff.  They kept the brand name, but made major changes; deal with it.

    Herbie

  • Sven Groot

    , wastingtime​withforums wrote

    *snip*

    Why should he, when he knows Win7. It's called Windows 8, not Metro 8.

    But it has been described as a "re-imagining of Windows". So anyone who's paid even the slightest bit of attention would expect it to be different.

    When Ubuntu switched from the old Gnome desktop to using the Unity shell by default, I was completely lost the first time I used it. It took a lot of googling for ways to do things before I could use that. And I'd used previous versions, so according to you they're not allowed to introduce major changes like that. Better go to the Ubuntu forums and write lengthy complaints about that!

  • wastingtime​withforums

    , Sven Groot wrote

    When Ubuntu switched from the old Gnome desktop to using the Unity shell by default [...] Better go to the Ubuntu forums and write lengthy complaints about that!

    Ubuntu is a fringe 1% OS. The OS of my DVR is more important than Ubuntu.

  • Sven Groot

    , wastingtime​withforums wrote

    *snip*

    Ubuntu is a fringe 1% OS. The OS of my DVR is more important than Ubuntu.

    Ah, so if you're popular, you're not allowed to make changes again, ever. Got it.

  • wastingtime​withforums

    , Sven Groot wrote

    *snip*

    Ah, so if you're popular, you're not allowed to make changes again, ever. Got it.

    There's differences between good changes and bad changes. Are you claiming that stuff like Metro gestures popping up all the time on touchpads, like in this case, is awesome? And if grand changes are introduced, there should be a fallback, like MS did it the last time. This time they aren't so confident to provide that ...

    If you have to defend W8 by taking a fringe 1% thing like Ubuntu as example of something, then W8 spells trouble.

  • Dr Herbie

    , wastingtime​withforums wrote

    *snip*

    If you have to defend W8 by taking a fringe 1% thing like Ubuntu as example of something, then W8 spells trouble.

    Well I took the iPad as an example. but of course you just ignored that.

    Herbie

  • flyingcolou​rin

    @Sven Groot:You have to have a touch screen laptop for that Tongue Out

  • Proton2

    In 1986 or so I'm at work in the office with a bunch of engineers and a scientist or two, half of them from China. My company is designing and building an underwater remotely operated vehicle for the Chinese government. But there is a problem. The B.C.I.T technician is not in the office and an important Lotus 123 spreadsheet has had some new numbers entered, but nobody knows how to get the spreadsheet to update. We don't even know what the correct term is so we can look it up in the manual. About an hour passes, and a few phone calls later we discover that we have to hit the F11 key ( if my memory is right).

     

    A few years later, when computers still sucked, I sometimes wished they had never been invented. I'll spare you the story's, but it mostly involved CAD.

     

    (International Submarine Engineering Ltd. By the way).

  • JoshRoss

    , Minh wrote

    It being near Christmas, we must remembered that Jesus was hated and misunderstood, too. Look where he is now.

    Israel?

  • Sven Groot

    , wastingtime​withforums wrote

    *snip*

    There's differences between good changes and bad changes. Are you claiming that stuff like Metro gestures popping up all the time on touchpads, like in this case, is awesome? And if grand changes are introduced, there should be a fallback, like MS did it the last time. This time they aren't so confident to provide that ...

    Well, you'll get no argument from me there. The original start menu should've been there as an option, at least.

    But that's not what your argument was. Your argument was that any change where the new version is not immediately intuitive to anyone who has used the old version is forbidden. That doesn't change just because you have the old UI as a fallback. Windows 95 was not intuitive to someone who used Windows 3.11 for a long time (I remember hating the taskbar initially). So according to you, they shouldn't have introduced it, fallback or not. And I challenge anyone who has never used Windows 95 before to figure out how to start the old-style Program Manager without looking it up (iirc, there was no shortcut for it. You have to do start, run, progman.exe or browse to the file using Explorer).

  • wastingtime​withforums

    , Dr Herbie wrote

    *snip*

    Well I took the iPad as an example. but of course you just ignored that.

    Herbie

    They didn't call the iPad Winpad, not even MacPad.

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