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No Silverlight 5 news? What's going on

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    zack80

    Anyone?

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    DouglasH

    Well during the channel9 live interview with ScottGU, said nothing to announce at this time, but yes work is still being done on Silverlight.

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    Bass

    Didn't Silverlight 4 come out in like April?

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    zack80

    @Bass: when I hear people saying that, I realize it's people who don't actually code in Silverlight to see where it's at

    There are many things to do in Silverlight, the framework is not even at half of where it should be. Both when you think about it compared to WPF and Flash. If you work in the RIA business you know what I mean.

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    DouglasH

    Bass yep and that was 4 version in little over 3 years.  I am ready for a slow down.

    Would like to see a unification of win phone 7 and desktop and wpf.  but beyond that I want to see it done right.  

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    zack80

    Also, people don't know about the bugs and memory leaks. When you are doing more just a simple presentation\website front-end, the need for a v5 arise quite fast

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    Bass

    , Andrew80 wrote

    @Bass: when I hear people saying that, I realize it's people who don't actually code in Silverlight to see where it's at

    There are many things to do in Silverlight, the framework is not even at half of where it should be. Both when you think about it compared to WPF and Flash. If you work in the RIA business you know what I mean.

    Enough! I for one am extremely excited about features that were available in Windows 1.0. Silverlight is NOT just a gimped and crippled version of the .NET framework. It's so much more.

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    zack80

    @Bass: judging by the interjection, I didn't know Steve Jobs is interested in Silverlight so much

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    Ian2

    I think Silverlight is going through a welcome process of consolidation at the moment.  Eveyone wants t see it on (even) more platforms (Android yeh!) but notwithstanding the story for Silverlight is great at the moment.  Awesome cross platform desktop apps (I can hardly believe how well Silverlight works on the Mac!) and now Windows Phone 7 - which is going to be absolutely huge. 

    Meanwhile the other story is HTML5, sure it sucks from a dev perspective (IMO) but if you need that really broad,wide reach then it is the lowest common denominator (and MS has great support).

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    Bass

    , Andrew80 wrote

    @Bass: judging by the interjection, I didn't know Steve Jobs is interested in Silverlight so much

    Apperently Steve Jobs plays Xbox 360 and has a gavatar too! Smiley

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    zack80

    @Ian2: Honestly, I don't think Silverlight will go more cross-platform.

    Silverlight is a great framework. Debut on Mac was to make people adopt it.

    However, I think MS will not do anything further on this direction. Reason is WP7.

    Again, Silverlight is great and I think MS wants to keep it for Windows and more important for WP7. Where do you develop apps on Silverlight? On Windows. What for? Windows (and Mac) and WP7. I remember I read a blog who rumored that Bill Gates himself said about Silverlight something like "Windows *". I am not saying it's real but it makes you think what are the real bets.

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    USArcher

    I believe Scott Guthrie will be keynoting a Silverlight conference in December.  So we might get an early preview then.  Frankly, I appreciate that PDC10 stayed focused on WP7, Azure and IE9...stuff that is available now or will be in the next 3 months.

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    Ian2

    @Andrew80:I believe they already have Silverlight for iPhone but Jobs won't go for it.  I don't know what the tech issues for Android would be but if it is 'do-able' then I think it would be a good move.

    Agreed focus should be Windows first - I want to see First Class Silverlight on a Windows slate (with a Marketplace opportunity for devs).

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    zack80

    @USArcher:I don't mind, everything they are talking about is great stuff.

    @Ian2: SL on iPhone? let's not exagerrate Big Smile

    Afterall, I am not sure why people compare Silverlight\Flash with HTML5. How do you write on user's disk with HTML5\Javascript? They have some common things but they address different things.

    WPF and Silverlight are very nice models, well supported by VisualStudio. I wish you can see something like that for Javascript too.

     

     

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    Bass

    , Andrew80 wrot

    Afterall, I am not sure why people compare Silverlight\Flash with HTML5. How do you write on user's disk with HTML5\Javascript?

    HTML5 Web Storage? Many Google apps already support it (Gmail, Docs, Reader, etc.). It's also one HTML5 feature that actually made it into IE8.

     

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    joechung

    They usually do Silverlight releases at MIX, not PDC.

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    Irakli_​Lomidze

    Steve Balmer Give as a clear message that world future is a HTML5.

    There was not worl from Microsoft Officials about SilverLight 5.

    There was only Prerecored session WPF/SilverLight Future but it alos does not realy shine what is microsoft googint to do in this direction. parallel to this Adobe show in MAX confernece FLASH to HTML5 Conversion/

    My Point of View that means Microsoft Will Releace SilverLight 5 and WPF 5, until HTML 5 will adopted. aftet that Both WPF and SL will be only maintanaed sile MFC. Base Stirimline will be on HTML5.

    Microsoft Might be Split in .NET 5. 

    1) Web Development Framweork  (It Might be Platform Independed, IIS Express 2.0/SQL Compact 5.0)

    2) Client Development Framework

    3) Full .NET Framework

     

     

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