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Nokia goes up and Apple goes down.

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    elmer

    , ScanIAm wrote

    I really wanted one, but until they aren't on AT&T, no dice.

    Apparently... coming soon to Verizon

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57559646-94/nokia-ceo-we-have-to-move-with-more-urgency-q-a/

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    gogonow

    well NOKIA is still holding up some it's advantages like the best maps applications and prices.

    in my point view I prefere nokia

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , DCMonkey wrote

    Stormtrooper: It's hard to find accessories for these Windows Phones.

    Jedi: (handwave) You don't need accessories for your Windows Phone.

    Stormtrooper: I don't need accessories for my Windows Phone.

    At least that's what I figure DBVS is getting at.

    Nail meets hammer. Thanks DC.

    To further the point: No 1080p phablet for WP8... Sorry you'll have to wait for the next version to get that feature. Of course you Microsoft apologists will say that resolution/form factor is unnecessary even though the Galaxy Note II is selling quite well.

    Glad to see Microsoft is well on their way to copying Apple (except the market share part of course Perplexed ).

    If we all believed in unicorns and fairies the world would be a better place.
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    magicalclick

    @DeathByVisualStudio:

    high resolution is fine by me iff the app devs and internet pages don't embrace tiny font land. I literatly had to blow up DPI to 150% on a typical monitor. Except, most apps craps out with such high DPI.

    nowadays, I buy 24 inches 1080p monitors, so, I can blow up DPI less to 125%. So the crappy apps doesn't crap out as much.

    Leaving WM on 5/2018 if no apps, no dedicated billboards where I drive, no Store name.
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    wastingtime​withforums

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    Of course you Microsoft apologists will say that resolution/form factor is unnecessary even though the Galaxy Note II is selling quite well.

    Glad to see Microsoft is well on their way to copying Apple (except the market share part of course Perplexed ).

    Yeah, it's pathetic.

    What Microsoft needs is a Putin. 90s Microsoft under Gates was something like the Soviet Union - feared, maybe hated, but respected. 2000s Microsoft is like Russia under Jelzin: Trying to score by following the liberalization trend of  the western countries/Apple yet utterly failing at it. And lead by a bumbling wanna-be who put everything into chaos. Putin put the ship back on track and replaced the new "democracy-loving" anthem with the Soviet hymn, although modified. He also didn't try to out-liberal the west and tightened the security up. It's not especially liked, but it's working far better than the Jelzin years.

    MS needs such a re-focus under a new leader too. They aren't the hipsters nor a luxury brand and competing with Apple on this is pure madness. Stop this obsession! It's leading to nowhere. They should also retire their faux FOSS friendliness. I would rather deal with the old "evil empire" MS of the 90s than this foolish laughing stock it is now.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    @wastingtimewithforums:They tried that with Sinofsky and that was nothing but an epic fail. Ballmer needs to go too as he provides no leadership nor vision. They need a modern era Gates who sees where the future is going but won't throw users under the bus to get there.

    If we all believed in unicorns and fairies the world would be a better place.
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    PaoloM

    You guys are *adorable* in your tinfoil hats Smiley

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    wastingtime​withforums

    , DeathBy​VisualStudio wrote

    @wastingtimewithforums:They tried that with Sinofsky and that was nothing but an epic fail.

    Not really. Sinofsky tried to out-hipster and out-fashion the undisputed kings in the field - Apple. He even tried to beat them at the planned obsolence game. A game they are so fabulously good at, one could say they have invented it.

    In short, he was a pathetic follower of trends in a competition he just couldn't win. Like Ford trying to be Lamborghini. That's the exact opposite of what I was talking about.

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    DeathBy​VisualStudio

    , PaoloM wrote

    You guys are *adorable* in your tinfoil hats Smiley

    Tinfoil hats? Really? My opinion that Sinofsky was a dictator and Ballmer is a terrible CEO makes me paranoid? I'd expect tinfoil to be reserved by those who fear Google's, Microsoft's, or Facebook's collection of personal data. C'mon Paolo you can do better than that.

    Seems like Microsoft's own employee's would agree with me on Ballmer and Forbes & CNBC agrees as well. I'd love to see a few analysts write up a good review of Ballmer but that would have to mean he actually accomplished something positive for the company. Strike that: he did do one good deed -- helping Sinofsky in his decision to leave Microsoft.

    As for Sinofsky just take your pick:

    No doubt Sinofsky was masterful at bringing a product to the marketplace but IMO he did so by leaving Windows 8 very much an unfinished story all to meet shipping deadlines. Furthermore he began believing he was enough of a visionary that he no longer needed to listen to Microsoft partners and users (again IMO). What we get is a good tablet OS with little app support and a thousand little cuts for the rest of us desktop users. Hell if the future is Windows Store Apps at least make the experience for Windows RT users a little more uniform by migrating all of the control panel stuff to PC Settings. I mean adding a Bluetooth stereo headset need not be such the "joy" it that it is in W8 today... Perplexed

    @wastingtimewithforums:

    With that perspective I'd have to agree. IMO, Sinofsky was a great process engineer IMO but he was no visionary and refused to believe otherwise.

    It just kills me of all of the miss-steps Microsoft has made over the past decade (starting with Vista). Years back I bought my daughter an HP convertible laptop because I thought Microsoft was on it's way to owning that space in tablets and pen computing. OneNote sold me and I'd hoped from the failed Origami experiment that they would have learned their lessons and put out something more akin to the Courier. Unfortunately "brighter" minds prevailed driving Windows everywhere and Super Duper COM++ (WinRT).

    If we all believed in unicorns and fairies the world would be a better place.
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    elmer

    Having parted ways with Microsoft, Sinofsky is off to teach at Harvard.

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