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    Bass

    , AndyC wrote

    *snip*

    Isn't it the constant mantra of the FOSS community that it's better to fix applications than for the OS to continually support broken behaviour? In this case, the standard (CR+LF) is very clear, so why is the FOSS community not out fixing all their apps to work correctly in the first place?

    Short answer: lolwut?

    Long answer:

    What standard are you talking about it? POSIX? Unicode?

    Also care to elaborate on this "constant mantra"?

     

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    PaoloM

    , Bass wrote

    What standard are you talking about it? POSIX? Unicode?

    I see... now there are too many and confusing standards, eh? Poor FOSS developer can't make it because it's way too difficult, eh?

    There is one standard for TTY, and it's ANSI. This was, by the way, the only valid TTY standard in 1964, when the writers of Multics decided to completely ignore it.

    And what has POSIX to do with the definition of the newline control sequence? Expressionless

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    Bass

    I'm not sure what the condesenting reply is for. Please quit it.

    Your source (Wikipedia) says this:

    "ASCII was developed simultaneously by the ISO and the ASA, the predecessor organization to ANSI. During the period of 1963–1968, the ISO draft standards supported the use of either CR+LF or LF alone as a newline, while the ASA drafts supported only CR+LF."

    Note the keyword "draft", and the fact that the two seem to conflict with one another.

    And it also mentions this:

    The Unicode standard defines a large number of characters that conforming applications should recognize as line terminators:

     LF:    Line Feed, U+000A
     VT:    Vertical Tab, U+000B
     FF:    Form Feed, U+000C
     CR:    Carriage Return, U+000D
     CR+LF: CR (U+000D) followed by LF (U+000A)
     NEL:   Next Line, U+0085
     LS:    Line Separator, U+2028
     PS:    Paragraph Separator, U+2029

    Obviously Notepad is not Unicode compliant.

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    beerinbelgi​um

    Poor FOSS developer can't make it because it's way too difficult, eh?

    Poor Italian guy struggling to fit in America. Dude, stop being an @ss and just go back home if you can't take it.

    I guarantee you'll be less bitter than you are now.

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    PaoloM

    , beerinbelgi​um wrote

    *snip*

    Poor Italian guy struggling to fit in America.

    If there's one thing I'm not doing now, it's struggling Smiley

     Dude, stop being an @ss and just go back home if you can't take it.

    Sorry, I didn't mean to be mean. I understand that having to slave away for "the man" makes you bitter but I honestly think you should find a better job, where your contribution is valued and you have the opportunity to lead a group and be an agent of positive change.

    Oh wait. You are the one driving cars into a ditch. Never mind Smiley

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    beerinbelgi​um

    If assumption and conjecture are a drug, then you're high as a kite.

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    Gambawn

    Ugh, first off Windows8 is nothing more than windows 7 with enhancements. I don't understand how WinDev's (like myself) are getting off saying death to VS dev like (WPF/Silverlight/.NET) I don't see them going anywhere. HTML5/JS are client crap you still need stuff to actually be functional in an app. 

    Also, the interface looks awesome, and would be great for a tablet. No a laptop or computer(hence the Windows behind it). 

     

    Food for thought,

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    PaoloM

    , Gambawn wrote

    Ugh, first off Windows8 is nothing more than windows 7 with enhancements.

    Just like Windows 7 is nothing more than Windows Vista with enhancements.

    I don't understand how WinDev's (like myself) are getting off saying death to VS dev like (WPF/Silverlight/.NET) I don't see them going anywhere. HTML5/JS are client crap you still need stuff to actually be functional in an app. 

    HTML is "client crap"? Expressionless I guess XAML is "client crap" as well...

    Also, the interface looks awesome, and would be great for a tablet. No a laptop or computer(hence the Windows behind it). 

    Why not a laptop? I think it would work great on a laptop, why do you think it wouldn't?

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    blowdart

    Personal attacks will stop now, or you'll be on the naughty step, m'kay?

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