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PS4 announced.

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    Bas

    So, the PS4 has been announced. Touchpad in the controller, a depth camera, far-reaching social stuff (streaming your gameplay to your friends and such), allowing you to stream (certain) PS4 games to a Vita, and streaming demos and older games via Gaikai.

    It sounds pretty good. I especially like how they sidestepped the whole back-compat issue that sort of plagued the PS3 with the Gaikai streaming.

    I wonder what's people at Microsoft are doing and thinking after this news. Especially being able to instantly play a demo via Gaikai sounds good. I wonder if Microsoft are planning something similar... they have App-V, and Office 2013 is usable before it has finished downloading... could they plan something like that?

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    Harlequin

    Too bad they didn't actually....you know....show it.

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    fanbaby

    Sony, tragic, greedy, memory stick, proprietary, stupidity, bye-bye, not gonna miss you

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    MasterPi

    , Bas wrote

    It sounds pretty good. I especially like how they sidestepped the whole back-compat issue that sort of plagued the PS3 with the Gaikai streaming.

    Well...they're "exploring" PS3 game streaming. There was no definite timeframe for when they'll be able to actually implement it.

     

    I thought that they did a great job in making the PS4 competitive - the social features are great. I especially love the automatic video snapshots. However...I just can't help but think that MS is going to beat them in a lot of these features. Even if they don't come out with it all at launch, they are more than capable of just adding stuff like sharing capability and purchase notification to their already robust Xbox Live infrastructure. If they decide to use the Win8 kernel, then they'd get a lot of things free like instant on/suspend resume, and maybe they'd be able to move over other Win8 features such as Sharing. I also thought of App V when I saw the Gaikai streaming concept - if they go with x86 architecture, then they would need to provide some solution for backwards compatibility, so it seems reasonable that they too would need to provide a streaming solution as well.

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    Harlequin

    Problem was, by the end of the gathering I didn't see a console in my head...I saw a system that would be good as a render farm server. I don't remember seeing anything about viewing/joining friends, or a console, or anything like that...unless I missed stuff.

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    magicalclick

    It is not as bad as Cell processor. Just don't know how good the GPU is.

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    quibit

     8GB of GDDR5 and 18 CUs in the GPU, not bad at all. How does MS plan to compete? or will they give Sony the advantage in graphics prowess this time around. 

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    MasterPi

    , quibit wrote

     or will they give Sony the advantage in graphics prowess this time around. 

    Didn't they already give Sony the HW advantage in the current gen (and MS still dominated despite that)?

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    Bas

    , Harlequin wrote

    Problem was, by the end of the gathering I didn't see a console in my head...I saw a system that would be good as a render farm server. I don't remember seeing anything about viewing/joining friends, or a console, or anything like that...unless I missed stuff.

     

    I don't know which presentation you saw, but the whole social thing was front and center. The controller even has a share button now.

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    quibit

    @MasterPie: Not really. In fact an important selling point of 360 was that multiplatform games nearly always looked better on 360. Most people do not care of Teraflops, but a lot of people read reviews where reviewers note differences between versions of games and that does have a big impact. 

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    MasterPi

    @quibit: I was under the impression that the PS3 was the powerhouse, but devs just couldn't figure out how to actually use all that power, and that devs could max out the potential for the 360.

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    quibit

    @MasterPie:Exactly my point, PS3 is more powerful on paper, but people don't notice this. People notice how developers keep pumping out better looking titles on 360, that's why it helped the 360 so much early on. But now PS4 and nextbox have the same architecture, devs won't struggle with PS4. 

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    itsnotabug

    i think sony will have to offer something big... like free or very cheap streaming of legacy games in order to compete with the nextbox.

    sony has always been a hardware company with software added on to support that hardware while ms comes from the opposite direction.

    as consumers start to expect more and more out of that big expensive box that sits in the living room, ms will be in a better position to meet all those demands... the entertainment streaming, cloud storage, social integration, ui (including kinekt which i believe will eventually become the main interface for "os" interactions) and just overall user experience is going to be much better on the nextbox because that is all in the software and the infrastructure/experience to support it.

    i'm not saying sony has bad software people, but they can't compete with ms. ps4 hardware may very well be better than the nextbox in every way, but i think the "os" and supporting eco-system will be more important for the majority of consumers as long as the hardware is good enough to be considered next gen.

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    magicalclick

    So far so good, it is launching at same time frame and it is not CELL anymore. So both timing and dev difficulties are not presented anymore. But, I do have problem with Sony's approach on controller. It is way too complicated and the touch screen is far from comfortable access. I will see what's MS plan. I want to know if my XBLA games will be playable or not. I expect it to run under .Net, but, still want an official word from it.

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    eddwo

    So Cell is dying, and it never seemed to come close to what was promised from it's revolutionary architecture.

    Weren't you supposed to be able to get a toaster with a Cell processor and then network it together with your PlayStation to improve the performance of certain games?

    As ever the theoretical dreams of the breathless reviewers don't quite mesh with the reality.

     

     

     

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