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  • DaveWill2

    The Apple/Samsung battle has ignited my curiosity into what types of patents are being issued.  It seems we need a thread for listing patents that we think shouldn't have been patents to begin with.

  • DaveWill2

    United States Patent  D666,209 Cranfill   August 28, 2012 

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    Display screen or portion thereof with graphical user interface

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    Claims

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        CLAIM      The ornamental design for a display screen or portion thereof with

         graphical user interface, as shown and described.       

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    Inventors: Cranfill; Elizabeth Caroline (San Francisco, CA) Assignee: Apple Inc. (Cupertino,  CA) Appl. No.: D/363,168 Filed:   June 5, 2010

     

     

    A screen with 3 buttons at the bottom.

    https://7zpy0a.sn2.livefilestore.com/y1pk9Ky1Vct-0mUpDCn15JUrT6jZGg-05QoPtUf918fxKkaAXqiooqqXJNeUSBbCJBnlBhpYJSAHllRv2FbN_B6RT5WyPPydxki/US_D666209S.png?psid=1

     

    If you have the TIFF viewer installed, here is the USPTO link:

    http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&S1=D0666209&OS=PN/D0666209&RS=PN/D0666209

  • bureX

    Vague software patents which are equivalent to "patenting the wheel".

    Here's Apple's "slide to unlock" patent:

    http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=8,046,721.PN.&OS=PN/8,046,721&RS=PN/8,046,721

    This patent, although approved, was rejected when it was used in a courtroom against HTC. Many companies are wasting money on patenting stupid and vague things in order to harass small startups. When you can't make do - sue.

  • DaveWill2

    United States Patent  8,223,716  Ohba ,   et al.   July 17, 2012 

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    Assisted proactive IP address acquisition

    Abstract

    The present invention relates to reducing the time required to provide an IP address to a mobile node by pro-actively obtaining IP addresses, through the use of PANA-assisted pro-active IP address acquisition, IKEv2-assisted proactive IP address acquisition, or by pro-active IP address acquisition using DHCP only.

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    Inventors:  Ohba; Yoshihiro (Englewood Cliffs, NJ), Lopez; Rafael Marin (Morcia, ES)  Assignee: Toshiba America Research, Inc. (Piscataway, NJ) Telcordia Technologies, Inc. (Piscataway, NJ)   Appl. No.:  11/567,134 Filed:  December 5, 2006

  • DaveWill2

    United States Patent  8,219,822  Camaisa ,   et al.   July 10, 2012 

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    System and method for blocking unauthorized network log in using stolen password

    Abstract

    The geographic location of a computer attempting to gain authentication to a server is obtained using the IP address of the computer, with authentication being denied if the geographic location is not approved.

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    Inventors:  Camaisa; Allan (Las Vegas, NV), Samuelsson; Jonas (La Jolla, CA)  Assignee: Anakam, Inc. (Wilmington, DE)   Appl. No.:  11/257,421 Filed:  October 24, 2005

  • DaveWill2

    United States Patent  8,256,016  Orthlieb ,   et al.   August 28, 2012 

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    Application rights enabling

    Abstract

    Methods and apparatus, including computer program products, implementing and using techniques for controlling capabilities of a user software application. A user software application is provided, the user software application including a set of disabled operations. Content capable of being operated on by one or more of the disabled operations in the set of disabled operations is received. Application rights information operable to enable an operation in the set of disabled operations to operate on content within a context specified in the application rights information are received and the operation in the set of disabled operations is enabled to operate on the received content. Methods and apparatus for providing content to be operated on by a user software application and methods and apparatus for providing a configurable, context-dependent user software application are also described.

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    Inventors:  Orthlieb; Carl W. (San Jose, CA), Pravetz; James P. (Sunnyvale, CA), Rosenbaum; Sarah (Menlo Park, CA)  Assignee: Adobe Systems Incorporated (San Jose, CA)   Appl. No.:  13/052,756 Filed:  March 21, 2011

    And its momma too....

    Parent Case Text

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    CROSS-REFERENCE TO RELATED APPLICATIONS

     This application is a continuation of and claims priority to U.S. application Ser. No. 11/681,915, filed on Mar. 5, 2007 (U.S. Pat. No. 7,913,314 to issue on Mar. 22, 2011), which is a continuation of U.S. application Ser. No. 10/080,923, filed on Feb. 21, 2002 (now U.S. Pat. No. 7,213,269). The prior applications are incorporated herein by reference.

  • evildictait​or

    Just because a patent has been granted doesn't mean it will be valid when tested in court.

    And just because a patent sounds obvious to you, doesn't mean it was obvious when it was invented.

    A case in point: The iPhone's slide-to-unlock patent was a novel way of unlocking a phone. Before that you had to press and hold a button, or press a button that was deliberately difficult to press.

    Someone at Apple came up with the idea of slide-to-unlock, and they tested it and they coded it. Why should Apple have to sit by whilst other people steal their ideas? It might sound obvious to you now, given the prevelance of smartphones. But let's not forget that when Apple patented this idea, their phone was the only phone that was just a screen. Everyone else had a keyboard or a phone-pad for data-entry, so a swipe-to-unlock was genuinely a new idea.

     

    I suppose for me the one big thing that does need to change in patent law is that I think patents regarding codecs and parsers should be changed to make it cheaper and easier to make interoperable software.

    For example, whilst I have no objection to the inventors of H.264 patenting clever ways of quickly decoding software, or even clever ways or encoding and compressing video - I don't think they should be able to prevent people writing software that decodes H.264-conforming video.

    Similarly I think that it's fair game for the inventors of DVD and BluRay codecs to charge hollywood royalties to allow movies to appear on BluRay. But I don't think it's reasonable for them to charge your DVD/BluRay software money to allow you to decode your content - hell, you've already given them the money when your bought the disk, you shouldn't have to pay twice.

    It should be legal and proper for me to implement my own PDF reader or to write my own PDF writer without giving Adobe money (since PDF is a de-facto standard). I just shouldn't be allowed to copy how Adobe are doing the reading/writing.

     

    I think the law should say if a format X exists such that X is a de-facto container for transmitting or storing data, such that it is likely that a company wishing to transmit or store data of that type will be compelled to read or write data in and out of that container, then it should be legal and free for any third-party to implement software that read or writes data in or out of that container format.

    The makers of H.264 should be free to sell their own software that makes H.264 videos, and they should be able to patent how their software works. But they shouldn't be able to stop or charge you from opening and writing H.264s via other, third-party applications (like a browser).

     

  • DaveWill2

    If it pleases the group, please avoid the debate about patenting in this thread.  Post patents that shouldn't be patents.  If enough posts build up, let's take a step back and look at them from a higher level and see if any revelation happens.  In the meantime the other conversation threads can refer to a post(s) here for discussions there.

  • davewill

    United States Patent  8,255,144 Breed ,   et al.  August 28, 2012 

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    Intra-vehicle information conveyance system and method

    Abstract System and method for conveying data between vehicles includes a data generating system arranged on a first vehicle to obtain or generate information about the first vehicle or conditions around the first vehicle, a first communications system arranged on the first vehicle and coupled to the data generating system for communicating with a wireless Internet service provider (ISP) and a second communications system arranged on a second vehicle and communicating with an ISP. The first communications system enables the information obtained or generated by the data generating system to be transmitted via the Internet to the second communications system. The first and second communications systems can communicate with the same ISP or different ISPs linked to one another.

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    Inventors:  Breed; David S. (Miami Beach, FL), Johnson; Wendell C. (Kaneohe, HI), DuVall; Wilbur E. (Reeds Spring, MO)  Assignee: Intelligent Technologies International, Inc. (Denville, NJ)   Appl. No.:  11/874,749 Filed:  October 18, 2007

  • davewill

    United States Patent  8,255,428 Bull ,   et al.  August 28, 2012 

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    Graphical representation of assets stored on a portable media device

    Abstract A user interfaces can deliver enhanced information regarding media assets stored on a portable media device. A graphical user interface for database browsing and navigation can include a list of values of a metadata item and a graphical representation of the distribution of media assets across the values on the list, such as a pie chart where the size of different wedges reflects the fraction of media assets having a particular value. As a user browses a list, the graphical representation can be modified to emphasize the correspondence between different graphical elements and different entries on the list.

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    Inventors:  Bull; William (Mountain View, CA), Hicks; Kourtny Minh (Sunnyvale, CA)  Assignee: Apple Inc. (Cupertino, CA)   Appl. No.:  13/024,296 Filed:  February 9, 2011

  • davewill

    United States Patent  8,255,461 Liu ,   et al.  August 28, 2012 

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    Efficient transmission of changing images using image caching

    Abstract In one embodiment, a display of a source device is shared with one or more viewer devices, e.g., of an online collaborative computing session, and the display is divided into a plurality of identified blocks. In response to changes in the display, the source device determines an outer boundary of an updated region affected by the change, where the updated region defines a plurality of "update blocks" of the identified blocks within the outer boundary. Images within each update block may then be compared to a previous version of the corresponding update block to determine if that individual update block is affected by the change. Any unchanged update blocks may be converted to an easily compressible image, and the source device may then compress and transmit the updated region to the viewer devices, where the transmitted updated region has instructions to use previous versions of unchanged converted update blocks.

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    Inventors:  Liu; Guangbing (Sunnyvale, CA), Sheng; Hailei (Fremont, CA), Gu; Jiannong (Sunnyvale, CA)  Assignee: Cisco Technology, Inc. (San Jose, CA)   Appl. No.:  12/399,089 Filed:  March 6, 2009

  • davewill

    United States Patent  8,255,828 Harris ,   et al.  August 28, 2012 

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    Command user interface for displaying selectable software functionality controls

    Abstract An improved user interface is provided for displaying selectable software functionality controls and for presenting logical groupings of particular functionality controls associated with a selected top-level functionality. Underneath a row of top-level functionality tabs, functionalities controls associated with a given top-level functionality tab are presented in logical groupings. Selection of a particular tab switches modes of the user interface to present controls for functionalities associated with the selected tab.

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    Inventors:  Harris; Jensen M. (Kirkland, WA), Butcher; Aaron M. (Duvall, WA), Morton; David A. (Redmond, WA), Satterfield; Jesse Clay (Seattle, WA), Denney; Justin (Seattle, WA)  Assignee: Microsoft Corporation (Redmond, WA)   Appl. No.:  10/955,967 Filed:  September 30, 2004

  • davewill

    United States Patent  8,255,830 Ording ,   et al.  August 28, 2012 

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    Methods and graphical user interfaces for editing on a multifunction device with a touch screen display

    Abstract In some embodiments, a device displays content on a touch screen display and detects input by finger gestures. In response to the finger gestures, the device selects content, visually distinguishes the selected content, and/or updates the selected content based on detected input. In some embodiments, the device displays a command display area that includes one or more command icons; detects activation of a command icon in the command display area; and, in response to detecting activation of the command icon in the command display area, performs a corresponding action with respect to the selected content. Exemplary actions include cutting, copying, and pasting content.

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    Inventors:  Ording; Bas (San Francisco, CA), Kocienda; Kenneth L. (Sunnyvale, CA), Moore; Bradford Allen (Palo Alto, CA), van Os; Marcel (San Francisco, CA), Williamson; Richard (Los Gatos, CA), Forstall; Scott (Mountain View, CA)  Assignee: Apple Inc. (Cupertino, CA)   Appl. No.:  12/565,750 Filed:  September 24, 2009

  • JoshRoss

    I wonder how you could sort all the patents by the length of their abstracts? This could be done, by char counts, word counts, distinct word counts, or some other property of the abstract.

    Does anyone else here have an idea to simply, not necessarily accurately, sort patents by complexity?

    -Josh

  • brian.​shapiro

    My father patented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy.

  • cheong

    Maybe U.S. can have another pool of jury build with candidates who qualified to be a jury and work as R&D in I.T. software/hardware vendors.

    In such case, to validate a patent, a "laugh test" is most likely to be enough.

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  • evildictait​or

    , cheong wrote

    Maybe U.S. can have another pool of jury build with candidates who qualified to be a jury and work as R&D in I.T. software/hardware vendors.

    In such case, to validate a patent, a "laugh test" is most likely to be enough.

    At that point, it's not really a jury, it's a panel of experts.

    The "laugh" test already exists in patent law. It's a requirement that patents are a novel, marketable and practical innovation that is non-obvious to an expert in the field.

    I think perhaps the bit that several people are getting confused by, is that having a patent granted doesn't mean it passed that test. That test of a patent's validity is only via a patent lawsuit.

    I could go a patent a "small device that holds a picture and/or witty phrase designed to be attached via magnets to consumer refrigeration devices" (a fridge magnet), but that doesn't mean I get $1 for every fridge magnet sold. To do that I have to bring a patent lawsuit, where experts in fridge magnetism would argue (and succeed) in persuading the court that my patent wasn't valid.

    If you want to complain against these patents, you need to complain about ones that have been tested in court. Patents which haven't been tested in court might not be valid. Hence, all of the patents you're complaining about in this thread might not be valid patents.

  • Bass

    Any software patent that doesn't have human and machine readable code attached.

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